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Hello Dipo,
I had made an error in that statement you quoted.
It should read, “When one gets rid of all ten micchā diṭṭhi, one is truly on the Noble Eightfold Path.” I just revised the post. It is #9 of the post, “Micchā Diṭṭhi, Gandhabba, and Sōtapanna Stage”
– Just to emphasize: One who has removed the 10 types of miccha ditthi is only on the mundane path UNTIL grasping Tilakkhana. One is on the Noble Eightfold Path when one has removed the 10 types of miccha ditthi AND understood Tilakkhana.(By the way, please provide the link to the post in question (that you quote). Otherwise, I have to spend time searching for the post)
Yes. It is easier for someone who does not have the 10 types of miccha ditthi to grasp the Tilakkhana.
Hello Tien,
You wrote: ” So instead of the universe keep expanding due to the pushing property of dark matter lead to the heat death, once it decay, it’ll no longer have that property and act just like regular matter and pulling the universe together, maybe even back to the singularity.”
1. The idea of the whole universe emerging from a “Big Bang” is the current scientific THEORY. It is NOT proven.
2. Buddha taught a VERY DIFFERENT picture. In that, only clusters of stars are destroyed from time to time. Each star with a planetary system is a cakkavala. A cluster of 10,000 cakkavala is destroyed at a time. Then it “re-builds” over a long time.
– That is the process described in detail in the Agganna Sutta.
– See, “Buddhism and Evolution – Aggañña Sutta (DN 27)“Hello Dipo,
I don’t see anything wrong with your inquiry into this issue. It is a complex issue.
1. The approach of Buddha Dhamma and modern science on the mind are the exact opposite approaches. I have tried to emphasize that in answer to a previous question from you.
– My suggestion is to keep that in mind.
– Science says that “consciousness” or “mind” emerges from matter. Buddha Dhamma says consciousness can arise ONLY in a hadaya vatthu created by kammic energy.
– It will NOT be possible to come to an explanation that can satisfy both approaches. If you try to “merge the two,” you will only get more confused.2. I just did a search, and that is an easy way to look for relevant posts: “Search Results for: matching womb gandhabba.”
3. The following is what I mean by a “matching womb” or a “suitable womb.”
– In general, children of a couple will have gati (character/habits) that are similar to their own. Of course, no two people will have exactly the same gati. But two people get together BECAUSE they have similar gati.
– The children will have PHYSICAL features from both parents, but in some cases, the child may have features mostly from one parent.
– MENTAL aspects may turn out to be that way too. But as mentioned above, the parent are likely to have more common mental aspects between them.4. Therefore, only those gandhabbas “matching” the MENTAL aspects will be pulled into the mother’s womb.
– We can see that to be true in general. Children normally have the moral qualities of their parents.
– But there can be exceptions. If the mother becomes distressed (say, in rape situations), her mental state could affect the type of gandhabba drawn into the womb. Normally, the “descending of a gandhabba into the womb” occurs within a day or two after intercourse.5. This “matching of gati” can be seen in many situations. It is a natural process. The saying, “Birds of a feather flock together,” is true, and we can see that all around us.
– See, “The Law of Attraction, Habits, Character (Gati), and Cravings (Āsava)”6. After reading the post in #5, you may want to read some of the posts in #2 and ask specific questions (you may be able to locate the post you had in mind there).
Hello Zapper,
It is OK to tell “white lies” for good results.
– But the example that you give is not a good one. Depending on the actual situation, it could be good or bad.Here is a better example of a good “white lie”:
“10. During the Nazi terror in Germany, many Germans “lied” to the Nazis that they were not hiding Jews in their houses; of course, the intention was to save human lives, and thus it was the right thing to do. They acquired good kamma for protecting lives.”That is from the post, “Right Speech – How to Avoid Accumulating Kamma.” You may want to read it.
There can be only one Buddha for a group of 10,000 cakkavāla within a given period of time. The next Buddha for us will not appear for a few more million years.
– There can be multiple Buddhas in different groups of 10,000 cakkavāla simultaneously.I think there is some information on the system of 10,000 cakkavāla in the post I referred to in the previous comment.
Buddha Dhamma says there are 31 realms associated with each habitable planetary system (cakkavāla). And there are an infinite number of them in the universe (this latter fact has been confirmed by science).
– It is likely that life in other cakkavāla is not that different from ours.However, the nearest cakkavāla (star with planets) is about 4 light-years away. That means a spacecraft traveling at the speed of light will take four years to get there.
– Since it is unlikely that even one-hundredth of the speed of light can be achieved for a spacecraft, travel to another cakkavāla is highly unlikely.See, “Pāṭihāriya (Supernormal Abilities) of a Buddha – Part I“
I forgot to mention: The suttas on Paṭicca Samuppāda are in the Sutta Pitaka, not in the Abhidhamma section.
The main series of those suttas start with the “Paṭiccasamuppāda Sutta (SN 12.1)“.
However, especially for those just starting to understand Paṭicca Samuppāda, reading word-by-word translations of suttas is not likely to be helpful. That is because suttas are in a highly-condensed form that requires detailed explanations.
– See my post, “Pāli Canon Is Self-Contained but Requires Detailed Explanation”I recommend reading the recently detailed explanation: “Paṭicca Samuppāda During a Lifetime.”
– I will start on a few posts to simplify that analysis with some examples in the next post.Hello Zapper,
First, you should have been able to put in the full text. There is no need to break up a post into many pieces. I have combined your posts into one. If you run into the same problem, please send me an email describing what happens: [email protected].
Your reference at Sutta Central is a complex Abhidhamma analysis of Paticca Samuppada.
– Most people can’t understand that analysis until the basic version of Paticca Samuppada is understood.
– That is why there is no English translation for that at Sutta Central. They don’t understand it either.
– Tobias G understands that complex process. That is why he commented above. But it requires a lengthy explanation.There are a few versions, even in the basic versions of Paticca Samuppada (PS).
– “Idappaccayātā Paṭicca Samuppāda” describes PS processes that take place within a lifetime.
– “Uppatti Paṭicca Samuppāda (How We Create Our Own Rebirths)” describes the PS process responsible for future rebirths.It is best first to understand the Idappaccayātā Paṭicca Samuppāda.
– I have described it in detail: “Paṭicca Samuppāda During a Lifetime“P.S. It means “anger/hate.”
See, “Pañca Nīvaraṇa and Sensual Pleasures (Kāma Rāga)”
Also, see my reply to Siebe’s question: “difference between vyapada sankappa and vihimsa sankappa”
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Hello Zapper,
They mean the same.
– Depending on how one pronounces the Pali word, it can be written as vyāpādo or byāpādo.
– I see that both versions are used even by the same people, including me.Niramisa sukha is at different levels.
– Niramisa sukha of an Anagami is higher than that of a Sotapanna, for example.
– Once one has a magga phala, niramisa sukha corresponding to that stage WILL NOT decrease.An average human may have niramisa sukha, too, when living a moral life.
– But, that can decrease if that person gradually moves to an immoral lifestyle. Normally that happens under the influence of “bad friends” (“bad influences.”)That is why the eight levels of magga phala (Sotapanna Anugami to Arahant) are special. Once understanding sets in at a certain level, it (and the corresponding niramisa sukha) will NEVER go away.
Please keep in mind that it is better not to open too many new threads. You could have asked this question in the old thread.
Hello Zapper,
You have asked the same question before and I have answered:
“Progression of niramisa sukha”I will delete this thread in a few days.
Comments by Lang and Dawson do make sense.
Seng Kiat is an Abhidhamma scholar. He enjoys “looking deeper” as I do too.
The types of indriya listed in Seng Kiat’s earlier post:
“Bāvīsat’ indriyāni: cakkhundriyaṃ, sotindriyaṃ, ghānindriyaṃ, jivhindriyaṃ, kāyindriyaṃ, itthindriyaṃ, purisindriyaṃ, jīvitindriyaṃ, manindriyaṃ, sukhindriyaṃ, dukkhindriyaṃ, somanassindriyaṃ, domanassindriyaṃ, upekkhindriyaṃ, saddhindriyaṃ, viriyindriyaṃ, satindriyaṃ, samādhindriyaṃ, paññindriyaṃ, anaññātaññassāmītindriyaṃ, aññindriyaṃ, aññātāvindriyaṃ.
Twenty-two faculties: (1) the eye faculty, (2) the ear faculty, (3) the nose faculty, (4) the tongue faculty, (5) the body faculty, (6) the femininity faculty, (7) the masculinity faculty, (8) the life faculty, (9) the mind faculty, (10) the pleasure faculty, (11) the pain faculty, (12) the joy faculty, (13) the displeasure faculty, (14) the equanimity faculty, (15) the faith faculty, (16) the energy faculty, (17) the mindfulness faculty, (18) the concentration faculty, (19) the wisdom faculty, (20) the faculty, “I will know the unknown,” (21) the faculty of final knowledge, (22) the faculty of one who has final knowledge.
The last three types are the three types of ñāna grasped, respectively, at Sotapanna, higher magga phala leading to the Arahant stage, and at the Arahant stage.
– At the Sotapanna stage, one realizes that one has “seen” the way to Nibbana, i.e., one would have the anaññātaññassāmītindriya. That is why the Buddha called Ven. Kondanna “aññā Kndanna” upon him attaining the Sotapanna stage.
– At higher levels of magga phala, aññindriya grows as one meditates on the anicca, dukkha, and anatta nature and comprehends them at higher levels.
– An Arahant has the aññātāvindriya, meaning he/she knows that the process is complete and there is nothing more to do.There is no connection to jhana.
See “Indriya Sutta (Iti 62)”
– The English translation is not quite right, but you can get the idea.1. It is not good to propagate things that may lead to misconceptions. There are many misconceptions about jhanas today. They can have very bad consequences.
– For example, I know that some people are discouraged by their inability to attain jhanas. But some of them may even have the Sotapanna Anugami stage. The specific conditions REQUIRED to attain Sotapanna Anugami/Sotapanna stages are listed in over 70 suttas (same conditions) provided in my previous comment above.
(P.S. I realized later that the English translation in those 70 suttas do not explain TWO keywords: “aveccappasāda” and “Ariyakanta sīla.” See, “Cakkavattirāja Sutta (SN 55.1)”
– Those REQUIRE the comprehension of the Four Noble Truths/Tilakkhana/Paticca Samuppada.
– That is explained in the post, “Sotapatti Anga – The Four Qualities of a Sotāpanna.” See #4 there.)– I am also aware of some who believe they have Ariya jhanas, but they live normal family lives. They are being misled. As I have shown, one needs to be an Anagami to attain even the first Ariya jhana.
2. All that is REQUIRED to attain ANY magga phala is “anuloma samadhi.”
– That is shown at the end of the post, “Citta Vīthi – Processing of Sense Inputs” where the conditions for magga phala and jhana are listed.Christian wrote: “There are plenty of suttas that say you can attain Nibbana, through jhanas, I would say the majority.”
1. Please provide the names of the suttas that say jhanas are REQUIRED to attain the Sotapanna stage.
– As one attains higher magga phala, jhanas come naturally to some people.
– By the Arahant stage, most may have attained all Ariya jhanas. That is especially the case for Cetovimutta Arahants.2. Also, anariya jhanas are very common. But just having jhanas DOES NOT NECESSARILY mean one is even at the Sotapanna Anugami stage.
– But, of course, it is a good thing to attain even anariya jhanas.
– Also, some at the Sotapanna stage may have anariya jhanas too.
– So, there are many possibilities/combinations.3. Jhanic states correspond to the “consciousness” of Brahmas in the Brahmas realms.
– Most of them don’t have magga phala and are “not released” from future births in the apayas.
