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You simply have no clue or real experience of Dhamma and teachings of Buddha because of that you are trying to cook up things in your imagination. I will explain your position so you can reflect on this. Imagine there is you who is thinking what is beyond the fence but you are not willing to look beyond that fence and just lay down there thinking about what is beyond. Being absorbed in that thinking process so much you forgot about the fence and the real meanings of why you are near the fence and what to do with the whole situation. Lost in that situation you are making up things in your mind without to do any work to attain even glimpse of any factors of Nibbana. You are trying to think off results without even attending to practice like a person who is not willing to run but only think all day about how it is to run.
All your confusion will drop once you start to experience Nibbana, Dhamma and how things really are – right now you are lost case. I’m saying this with all compassion to you because being stuck in ignorance like that is not even funny, please start practice as fast as possible and get on right track otherwise you will succumb your chance by being idler who will only grow bitter and dissatisfied (or even worse – angry) with Dhamma.
This is how people are in this image. Stop being like that and get your things together.
Lal said “One does not need to attain the Arahantship or even the Sotapanna stage, before one can try to explain Dhamma to others (to the extent that one comprehends it). That is what most of us are doing.”
I will clarify it a bit. Most people look at you judgemental way and thru materialistic view – if there is nothing to gain there will be no interested in anything or in any “nonsense” that does not have clear benefits. As my characteristic changed, wisdom and everything people started to take a notice of drastic changes (even in my physical outlook) and started become interested in Dhamma so I think the best way is just to be an example of what Dhamma can do for human being so others will naturally try to figure it out what going on or at least to try to look into Dhamma.
So if you are speaking of Buddha, Dhamma, and Sangha and you are no different then other people and fall in the same traps they will think it’s just another burden for their mind, a philosophy that they will still follow their urges like cattle but just with different concepts and name. One can teach Dhamma or spread Dhamma without being Sotapanna but there is high risk involved that person will be lacking too mach understanding and experience to show people the way of practice.
Yes so from what I understand is more like this. I happen to experience it too and I relate that this is how it feels when you die when the body just becomes lump but your brain is still aware of everything. Gandhabba and other stuff would be different I think in that case.
We all will experience it anyway at the moment of death.
“If your parents wasn’t loved each others and had sex than there would be no you even to begin with let alone all your craps. So how could you said that sexual desire are bad?”
In the long term you will be committing rape, threat, lie to have sex – a person needs to take rebirth process into count. Lust is something that bound you to existence and needs to be removed as fast as possible if one wants to live Holy life rather then the life of a cattle. Cattle do not question anything they just follow their urges to eat and reproduction impulses.
“We’ve clearly known about aging and death, even more so than you – youngster, so we try to making more money so we can enjoy pleasures at later dates. Why can’t you just become a normal human like us – making lot of money and enjoy life?”
The enjoyment of life is nonexisting phenomena created on the basis of ignorance. They want you to live like cattle – how good it can be? We can not extract happiness from life, the happiness people experience is because of ignorance not because happiness exists out there to be extracted from any event/people/happening or money. In reality, there is no happiness, the more you indulge in sense pleasure the more your mind and body will burn and suffer. You feeling like a beat-up person is far from being happy.
“Basically because you are so different than any other person in society, if your words are agaisnt the mass then they would just assumed that you are crazy, delusion, have some psychological problems or just ignore you. This is the general responds I received while trying to spread the Dhamma when I see it’s appropriate.”
Being Mara’s cattle and not seeing the insanity of this world because of avijja. Not seeing the enormous size of the universe, that this whole universe is ticking bomb with earth, the shortage of life and potential suffering in the future – if someone does not even want to see thru that this person is pretty insane to really see or have hope for any happiness in such insane world mechanics.
A mistake you are making is trying to convince people to practice it. Firstly it will never work that way, Dhamma is not a religion of conversion but Dhamma needs to be understood and contemplated. First, attain at least Sakadagami or Anagami before coming to people because you will only cause harm to yourself and others. IF you are not sure about arguments or can not make them up on spot it means you are lacking understanding and wisdom to spread Dhamma on that stage as it will be useless for you, people and Dhamma itself. One needs to have high wisdom and insight to teach others and be on high stage itself and understand Dhamma deeply to relate it to people on the spot. Do not approach Dhamma as Dhamma-teacher without excellent PANNA.
Do not be mad, sad or anything because you can not pass Dhamma – focus first on yourself otherwise it would be useless to teach people on the simple conviction that Dhamma is right in your view but yet to be realized. Only realized beings (Ariya) have the right to spread Dhamma and have necessary wisdom to do so. Even some Arahats would stay away from the transmission of Dhamma
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Could you ask here all the question you would like to get answered, it will be easier? “Cleansing kamma” does not lead to Nibbana but better rebirth so there is no way you can attain Nibbana like this. You can easily cheat other people who do not know anything about Buddha Dhamma into believing anything you want just triggering for them some special experiences to manipulate them by doing that. This is why most “spiritual” communities are dangerous places to be as inside most of those communities are rotten besides some people who actually do good in the world.
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Recollection of Devas is something different than thinking that someone is watching over your deeds – it just coping mechanism and type of psychiatry rather than a way to attain any Nibbana, it’s still in the field of wrong views.
“Recollect the devas. They are watching. Your unwholesome activities, whatever they be, even your unwholesome thoughts they can watch. Not as wardens – to observe, admonish and punish, but to ‘watch over’ rather, like tutors their pupils”
Don’t do that. If you think like that you will actually cultivate more avijja. Only wisdom can permanently cut off tanha/avijja. Simple reasoning will not work you will actually get opposite. Those devas didn’t attain Ariya status by doing the same but by cultivating wisdom and insight.
I do not know why my post didn’t show up so if it will be double please delete the shorted one.
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All the Buddha said is the same from different context and angles. The more you see that you are not able attain any happiness thru hate, greed and lust the closer to Nibbana you are.
The thing is that if you read a lot of nonsense under “buddhism” category (books, articles etc.) which are not even close to real Dhamma you will develop wrong views that you will think that you experience something (which is not even living experience, this is just what you think and believe/imagine). So what you think is not what you experience but you take what you read for granted “if it that so then I will just think that way and repeat like a parrot” – this is how 99% so-called “buddhist” I encountered. Dhamma is not empty, even if you are Arahant is not empty but there is no more use of Dhamma as a healthy person does not need any more medicine to take – do medicine become empty? No, we just do not need it anymore.
99% so-called “experiences” are just what people read and think and they think that is what is called experience. Totally wrong. We experience only a couple things, mundane stuff, jhanic states (if someone can enter them) and Nibbana – that’s it. There is no more to experience besides it.
Keep yourself checked all the time if you want to make real progress. I can not stress how an understanding of Dhamma is crucial otherwise there is no real progress outside of that understanding but just confusion which we being absorbed into as it fits our confused gathi.
Stop making up stuff in your mind and just focus on what you really experience. (tanha/avijja)
Dhamma is not empty, you are just confused about things and this is why Dhamma seems empty as you creating this experience as a blind person touching different things and experiencing them as something else then it is in reality.
Sevetha bhikkhave, Sāriputta-Moggallāne. Bhajatha bhikkhave, Sāriputta-Moggallāne. Paṇḍitā bhikkhū anuggāhakā sabrahmacārīnaɱ. Seyyathāpī bhikkhave, janetti evaɱ Sāriputto. Seyyathā pi jātassa āpādetā evaɱ kho Moggallāno. Sāriputto bhikkhave, sotāpattiphale vineti. Moggallāno uttamatthe. Sāriputto bhikkhave, pahoti cattāri ariyasaccāni vitthārena ācikkhituɱ desetuɱ paññāpetuɱ paṭṭhapetuɱ vivarituɱ vibhajituɱ uttānīkātunti
I remember something like this when Buddha mentions attend Sariputta for stream entry Path and Moggallanna for Arahantship
