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Dhamma123 have so serious issues with himself and we would like to help you but you need to stop behaving like it’s our fault. Stop acting like a victim without any responsibilities. If you are not able to grow up as an adult and respect other people but trying to attacking them all the time and at the same time ask for help or anything it will not do anything well. If you would really looking for help you would not make a problem out of it.
May you attain Nibbana and please do not pollute this forum with your rants as I explained it before people who rant they use to play “compassion card” on others. We clearly want to build stable and clear community here, if you want to be part of it try to adapt rather than make up your own excuses to act without any mindfulness.
Do not project your problems and insecurities on other people in that manner as you are part of that violence so you will bring that to you by your irresponsible behavior.
You have two choices to stop fearing things in life.
1) Attain Nibbana by living simple life and following TRUE and PURE Dhamma then you will experience Niveema and Niramisa Sukha so your mind will be calm in that experience like in Nibbanic bubble.
2) Be adapted to the situation which creates fear in your so you have more control about it and over it. It does not mean that you need to be violent but responsible to the situation which coming on you. You seem to want other things to control your life or some higher power, not yourself – that where the fear comes. Rather than trying to dodge the situation try to face them.
Those things got nothing to do with Dhamma. Clean mind obviously can create mundane proficiency in relation to everyday life but it is not a magic pill.
What you are experiencing is simple biological responses because you grow up safe society so your brain didn’t really develop to handle such things.
To stop fearing life you need to fast, eat well, train and put yourself into situations of risk and danger but if you are adult it can be very hard to do anything with it as most of the neurons are lost while growing up leaving only the necessary ones for further survival.
You need to start the whole process again to end up in the results you want to be which there are things to do and work on. Dhamma can be helpful as such but it’s not a cure for biological responses. Unless you are Arahant or Anagami (I guess)
“Not only less temptation by sense pleasures, but less struggle fighting against strong sense pleasures as well. The struggle gets annoying/tiring after a while. It would be nice not to have this struggle.”
If you fight against a strong sense of pleasure and cannot conquer it – you will not be able to attain jhana anyway.
I practiced jhanas a lot with what I could call LOW results but when I realized that those LOW results is like what people keep in high esteem I easily dropped craving to attain jhana.
“what’s the mental activity of an Arahant?”
“This is what I think. Nibbana is not non-existence. But I think parinibbana (which happens during the death of a being who has attained Nibbana) is non-existence.”
Level of ignorance of some of those posts is just overpowering. You guys are totally clueless and do not even realize that you harm yourself by trying to find out what is Nibbana or how it’s Arahant thru lenses of ignorance. This is Lal forum so I hold myself in respect for his works and rules. Rather then ask “how Arahants mind is” is better to ask How I can make my mind pure as Arahant one so you will be going in right direction, right now you are hopeless if you can’t see thru your own ignorance – which I know is not an easy thing to do but do not go over your head and act as you can do it. Dhamma is not an intellectual exercise to have new ideas to talk about. This is no different than sexual lust to trying to satisfy mind’s clitoris by dwelling in those concepts and ideas with ignorance and bad intentions. You will never satisfy yourself so stop trying and then you will be one step closer to knowing directly what is like to experience Nibbana, what it is and how the Arahant mind can be or how it is like. You are like sisyphists following Dhamma. Sisyphus mentality.
Look up what you are doing, what you think and what direction you are going. Dhamma is not for your entertainment.
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Yes, but this is not Sotapanna stage. Many people take many experiences even beyond Pure Dhamma as Sotapanna stage even people who practice hinduism or other stuff often treat some experiences as such. If you go further you will have a more and clearer breakthrough into Sotapanna for sure. The first reaction is a very good sign but you can not stop from that just keep going with it till CLEAR understanding will be developed which is kind of beyond six senses but still comprehended by the mind.
You can not take symptoms of healing for a feeling of being healthy. It should be viewed like that.
Some people just make it hardest as possible for themselves rather than try to make it most simple to realize Nibbana at least to some extent.
Most people can not approach Dhamma right way. Everything is explained here already. There is no point to challenging Buddha to our own views which we read about from various sources but to try to understand and find which of them make the most sense for us. The one which makes sense should open our perception, trigger something wholesome and transformation of gathi.
The Pathway which most people choose on this forum (especially sybe which it happens repeatedly) is to compare your own ignorance with Buddha Dhamma. It will just not work, you can not put a square into a circle and vice versa. Even monkey have enough brain to not do that and some of the birds but humans seem still to struggle with that.
Learn Dhamma the way which is explained. If you do not understand what is explained – ask the question on that topic “I do not understand this and that”, and “my own understanding compared to this is like that so help me to fix it”
To analyze one people ignorance you just need two ingredients:
1) The question of such a person
2) His own explanation from the current (non)understandingand from that, you can benefit. Other things without those two frames will results in just endless and useless conversation so it’s compassion best interests to point out what is wrong and what is right, especially if one knows about it. If you can’t agree with that or you do not like it and think that compassion is letting you play around as you like then you need to GROW UP as you either a child or child in grow man body who didn’t develop well and still have ideas that can hide behind “lack of compassion” card while being unresponsible and let go of ignorance without consequences.
Whatever it is internet or real-life consequences in relation to Ariya Puggala are still can affect your mind and future rebirth. Be responsible and act as one who wants to learn or attain magga phala because what it ins your heart, in reality, can be seen behind the letters.
“Bad en good both conditionally arise in reaction to sense-inputs.”
No. This is a bad oversimplification and those things are rooted in micca ditthi.
The condition for good is a cessation of bad. We are not talking about how bad people can act good but a cessation of bad qualities give rise to good reactions.
“In a strict sense, because it both conditionally arises, it is not really authentic behavior. ”
That’s dry nonsense which is conditioned when you are disconnected from reality. Good things are not conditioned on supermundane Path, they are good because lack of conditions to do anything bad.
I wanted to answer all those things you spoke but they are all from the same standpoint and ignorance. You are not trying to understand Dhamma but try to put your understanding first challenging Dhamma as you knew better what is what which is one step before slandering Dhamma.
For me, you are approaching it from the wrong perspective. It’s not image on the wall to make an idea about it like in some gallery or meeting. It’s wisdom that needs to be actualized so your mind experience leaps over or changes over time.
People can take any ideas and try to make sensual pleasure or satisfaction stories inside their mind but this is a no different than sexual compulsion.
Making up stories about Anicca can also suggest inner insecurity or fear to approach it or realize the essence so you need to be aware of that.
It’s better to not make it more complicated or confused but its the best to try to make it the most approachable and simple to understand. Bringing anything other than straight teachings can actually harm Dhamma teachings.
I’m not generalizing as most of my life I practiced Mahāyāna teachings. They teach you how to eat and have sex to have insight into rigpa. Almost all Mahāyāna teachings especially dzogchen are nonsense and they are no different from hindu teachings at all but they use different names for the same things.
It’s better to not compare and to not bring any outside schools here and trying to fit them here in terms of anything right as they are not right at all in most cases.
“Some schools, like dzogchen, a tibetan buddhist school, teach to change nothing in the mind. Why invest? States and phenomena arising are all impermanent and cannot be maintained.”
You are a missing point that those people indulge in sexuality, alcoholic drinks and does not even understand Dhamma. Dzgochen teaching makes no sense so the tibetan buddhist which worships hindu gods. You just seeing one small part of them which have no relation to Buddha Dhamma but it only seems like that.
There is no other way to attain Nibbana or getting of anger, depression or any hindrances than those 2 things.
1) Anicca nature for permanent results
2) Satipatthana and Anapana to clearly contemplate point 1.Why we get angry? Because thru anger we want to get what we want because we think it will make as happy if a person will be that way or situation of life we want to be will be like that we want. Those ideas are ridiculous if you really close to it. Thanks to Buddha Dhamma, Lal and other people that I can be free to the very big extent from a self-created drama by ignorance.
Being angry at someone is that you believe in ICCA in a personal relationship. Nobody will make you happy EVER and nothing will make you happy ever, paradoxically understanding this will make you into something beyond happiness and unhappiness. Is the same pattern, the same way, and one direction but manifestation of ignorance seems endless.
Remember to go gradually, do not worry that you are getting angry if you do not feel that you leap over into Sotapanna, you need to know how to root out every fetter and this is only known to Ariyas on at least Sotapanna level.
