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@Tobias,

“Kama raga will keep one bound to kama loka, that is to say with a heavy body, sickness, aging, physical ailments, the need to work …” This is in terms of rebirth, of course ? Next rebirth ?

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@Y Not,

Ok so now i know : you’re an Anagami.

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@Tobias,

“…Will see the dangers in kama raga… ” interesting.
Can you pls elaborate a bit on this ?

Thanks

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“The more I try to go against it, the more it counters me back.” Exactly, certain beasts can’t be tamed by force, one has to make use of tricks.

Now let’s talk about the sex thing openly, for nowadays it’s quite different from Siddhartha the Gotama epoch; nowadays we’re much more environment-aggressed, we live in a completely different society,etc (no need for details i suppose…). Which leads me to raise some quests, maybe naive, but still :
– Can a Sotapanna be married OR if not married have sex now and then as much as he / she finds a suitable partner?
Anyways Buddhist or not sexuality can never be a priority in ones life.
On other hand if one doesn’t choose to become a monk (who lives in a more favorable environment for asceticism – in principle…) then the process gets tougher.
Corpse or body decay/filth contemplation are effective but only to some degree.
As much as one doesn’t indulge in Kāmēsu miccācāra everything is fine…?

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Hi
Yes we need to be creative and not follow stuff dogmatically whatever the stuff is.But at once one should have a solid background / infrastructure which i’m convinced Pure Dhamma is…

It might not be the best strategy to always shut down unfavorable thoughts “by force”. Sometimes one should let it surface and discard it after a brief moment of observation. It also happens that if you say to yourself something like “you want to think about that ? Ok think then…” the thoughts in question simply vanish which is about “mind tricking the mind”… imo.

This is somehow related too to my previous post, that i’m going to reformulate asap.
One should be at once relaxed and aware of everything here and now : body, mind and environment. There’s more then one way of doing it .

Also one thing to avoid is tiredness – the more tired one is, the less defenses one has to conveniently manage “Mara” and alike.

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@Lal,

Anyone of it, as per:

1.sankhara : actions leading to defilements , habits… THUS:
2.abhisankhara : strong sankhara that lead to rebirths and strong vipaka

1. and 2. logically leading us to :

3.(abhi?)sankappa : thoughts , ideas

The third one i’m deducing it from the structure of the language (Sinhala?Pali?), not sure if it’s right.
Summing up i said to myself that seeing that actions can lead to defilements,then thoughts too …?

So the suggested method would reduce the tendency to accumulate all the above…

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@firewns, my comment has very little to do with your quest, i commented on SengKiat info about “Arhat and Boddhisattva….” article/link.If you open the referred link you’ll finally get that my comment is pretty clear.

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Lal,

“Birth (jati) is within a given existence (bhava), and bhava is due to one’s gati. This is very important to understand.” Yes…i’m reading, noting and meditating upon the whole PureDhamma pdf book (more than 1200 pages if i’m not wrong) as already said once.
“But not all animals are the same. Those “higher up” animals like monkeys can accumulate kamma than “lower ones” such as worms, and cats and dogs are somewhere in between”.
What about highly trained dogs? Or dolphins…? Are they accumulating good kamma ?

Example: an highly trained dog will not pee everywhere, at least that’s what a dog-trainer told me.

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Hello,

• “Sakkaya ditthi, the delusion of self or soul” this is a delicate matter. Doesn’t the Buddha made it clear that one shouldn’t worry (let’s say it so…) with such dual-non dual speculations ?
  Putting it in very pragmatical terms : if one replaces self or soul by ego then one has something concrete to work upon. Something effective.
• “Silabhata paramasa,dependence upon rites” : This reminds me that my meditation corner might be considered a rite…however it’s not because i enjoy it that i’m dependent on it

Metta

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drs8,

“Ex-Sun will surely rise tomorrow morning” if you die today tomorrow the Sun will not rise …”for you”. But why would you die today ?! Or me ?! Or anyone else ?! Well it can happen…

aren’t our actual bodies an excellent example of Anicca ? Yet independently of you dying or not, perhaps that you’re right when you say that the Sun will be rising tomorrow but can we be 100% sure that the Sun will be rising in let’s say one week? Can we be 100% sure that the bridge that we crossed some days ago will stay in place next time ?

Now on a different frequency : “One isn’t able to maintain things to one’s own satisfaction in the long run”. In the long run we can apply it both to the life of our actual body but also to all eventual rebirths. And why is this? This is because our satisfaction is rooted in: CC – craving & clinging. Which is by the way “excellent” to make us understand the true nature of Anicca…and of anatta too…

” If someone pour hot water to your body, you feel pain and your skin burns. Is this also a phenomena?” Indeed it is sangha fellow. Anything that arises, lasts (more or less) and vanishes (sooner or later…) it’s a phenomenon…

Btw did i say that the world doesn’t exist ? I don’t think so.
Relative reality that’s what the world is about…

with Metta

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Hi drs8, hi all,

“And one of the greatest Thai Ajahns , Ajahn Chah , explained the Anicca as “Not sure, uncertain”. But knowing what I know now, I can’t agree with that as there are many certain things in the world”

“Not sure, uncertain” it’s to sum up alot but it might not be wrong in and of itself.
Anyways one shouldn’t have any problem with things being “uncertain”. As much as one doesn’t mix up concepts and experiences.

AS FOR “there are many certain things in the world”…are you sure ? This world being EXISTENCE, that is, phenomenon how can you say such ? The only sure thing is the highest degree of Nibanna but is such Nibanna existence ?

P.S.- by “world” i suppose you’re referring to the 31 realms…

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Hi @Lal, @Inflib, all,

On vatthu kama,etc… this subject can be understood only under the vast scope of the Rebirth concept, linked to one’s actual body or not.
Liking – even if it’s about (formal) beauty meaning art,etc – creates kammic bounds which in turn delays Nibanna.

However there’s a difference between to like and to crave for.

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i have the impression that in my case the 5 indriyas are balanced – not too much of this, not too much of that.But, seen the world we live in, environmental motivation can have positive outcomes on internal motivation.
I see this epoch as more difficult than the ancient times (Buddha epoch) to advance in the path.

Thanks again to both

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Absolutely, we don’t have time nor energy to lose with anything else other than our path; every exertion plays and will will play a role.

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Seeing that (as much as i understand) there is no trace at all of a “life stream” that attained Nibanna.

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