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    • #15005

      Hi all,

      “Now let us see how these indriya can become āyatana. In simplest terms, indriya become āyatanawhen we deliberately use the indriya to accumulate abhisankhāra”

      Ok. I don’t have any doubt about placing Pure Dhamma above all other dhamma branches yet, the above reminded me something that i learned while studying and practising Chan Buddhism some years ago; since one awakes til one goes sleep,one is supposed to be aware of body sensations and environment impressions without sticking to any of them too long (not more than 3/5 secs).The awareness should constantly shift from body to environment and vice-versa.
      Logically (but what’s it’s logic isn’t always true – i admit it…) this should avoid the accumulation of abhisankhara ?

      thank you

    • #15006

      @Embodied: Your question is not clear. What abhisankhara are you talking about?

    • #15007


      Anyone of it, as per:

      1.sankhara : actions leading to defilements , habits… THUS:
      2.abhisankhara : strong sankhara that lead to rebirths and strong vipaka

      1. and 2. logically leading us to :

      3.(abhi?)sankappa : thoughts , ideas

      The third one i’m deducing it from the structure of the language (Sinhala?Pali?), not sure if it’s right.
      Summing up i said to myself that seeing that actions can lead to defilements,then thoughts too …?

      So the suggested method would reduce the tendency to accumulate all the above…

    • #15009

      1 and 2 are correct.

      1 and 2 do not lead to 3. Sankhara by definition are thoughts that are defiled to varying degree. When they involve strong dasa akusala, they become abhisankhara.

      You may want to read, “Sankhāra – What It Really Means“, and ask the question again.
      From #3 of that post:
      Kaya sankhāra are in “conscious thoughts” that make our bodies move. Killing, stealing, and sexual misconduct are apunnabhi kaya sankhāra.
      Vaci sankhāra are in “conscious thoughts that we silently generate” and also those thoughts that lead to speech by moving the lips, tongue etc. Thinking about a Dhamma concept is a punnabhi vaci sankhāra. Hate speech is due to apunnabhi vaci sankhāra.
      – On the other hand, mano sankhāra are in “unconscious thoughts” that arise automatically. We are not aware when they arise. They arise due to our gathi and can indicate our level of moha or avijja. Since they arise unconsciously, mano sankhāra are unlikely to be abhisankhāra that have strong kammic consequences.

      Please take time to formulate the question. Don’t just start writing and hit the submit button. If you don’t formulate the question right, you may not get the right answer. And I am having a hard time trying to understand what you are asking.

      Maybe someone else can understand the question and answer.

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