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March 14, 2022 at 11:33 am in reply to: Early Buddhist Meditation The Four Jhanas as the Actualization of Insight #36948ChristianParticipant
Lang, yes the I’m speaking about early buddhist texts (EBTs)
Also, another interesting sutta that explains Path step by step Cūḷahatthipadopamasutta
What I just want to mention is that we should put most emphasis on meditation and jhanas after understanding Dhamma, just understanding may be not enough in most cases if we want finish the Path
March 12, 2022 at 9:52 am in reply to: Early Buddhist Meditation The Four Jhanas as the Actualization of Insight #36916ChristianParticipantThere may be more to it, the more I study “early Buddhism” the more questions appear in terms of missing pieces we may have in pure dhamma for example author argues that:
So probably I will make another topic soon when we can discuss those things
ChristianParticipantCertain people are happy when others suffer from indirect mental suffering and bullying they cause or it’s part of stealing computer data (like passwords u have for a bank account or the site may want you to write down some personal information). You explained in one article what potentially happens to people who enjoy causing suffering so hope everybody can learn from that :)
ChristianParticipantVirus in the link as my anti-virus informed me, do not click the link + this is bot not a person
ChristianParticipantIt’s not even that, I’m just curious what they are speaking of and if there is any merit in it that can be useful for people on the Path
ChristianParticipantI would add that Buddha does not really deal with those things. There is Sutta that Buddha explains that he does say what is the cause of suffering and how to end it, the rest is rather less important – people looking for those answers are not really looking to practice Dhamma but fulfill their intellectual curiosity – which is nothing wrong, but there is no point of “buying up” people into Dhamma thru proving certain points while Dhamma can be explained on examples that we are self-aware and most people are (mind, senses, ignorance, etc and whole Paticca Samupadda process and basic Anicca stuff should be enough even for less intelligent people)
ChristianParticipantLal, this is not a person, this is another bot, the DavidLeilak is also a bot, not a person, they look thru the sites (those bots) and spread malicious or bad links to highlight their site into the top search of google. Delete those people and links also set up a captcha for posting :)
You can just google this site and you will see “paul” spamming everywhere :)
ChristianParticipantI would not suggest doing those methods above overall – even I suggest some anariya jhanas for people but if you already found real Dhamma there is no point of regressing into wrong views and methods for the sake of experience that it may happen anyway on the Path.
ChristianParticipantMost people who speak about jhanas do not experience jhanas but some lower states of concentration, are you sure you experienced arupa jhanas?
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ChristianParticipantThere are many interesting topics in Dhamma for sure, we can ask endless questions about those things especially on the cosmic matter and things beyond scope of our mind and technology. One needs to keep that in check and by “that” I mean that mind-pattern that looking for some cosmic argument to practice Dhamma. It’s like a first-grader trying to challenge a mathematician about his own ignorance and limited information glued into what he “thinks and believes to be such and such” – the life experience will verify everything and a person will grow for certain things giving up on this pattern.
What I mean here you may be looking for validation in the wrong room that will cause more mess in understanding. Everything starts always from the base or root understanding, first, you learn numbers, the meaning of the numbers, and basic calculation to move further but if you want to go into “cosmic” matters “on the go” you will be at a disadvantage. People need to understand that – they will not able to grasp it all. You can’t have it all, but what is essential in Dhamma is very graspable for anyone willing and anyone with goods roots for it.
ChristianParticipantBuddha Pooja is practicing 8 fold Path
ChristianParticipantYes, exactly – it happens that I figure it out :) I think that’s all
ChristianParticipantThank you for your answer and input, I understand neither self nor non-self and can explain it too, which I would do different way on the podcast that I’m starting, the thing is that I was asking about “what makes you rebirth” not in the sense of self but as an object that “bounds you” into such and such existence. It’s our mind that goes thru this process and that what I mean, here the “mind” can sound vague and not direct because many people may think that the mind is this or that but for cultivators and Dhamma practitioners “mind” should be evident.
ChristianParticipantOkay, I see we do not understand each other in the sense that I read and know most of the things we said here (even thru limited insight) but the thing is if we want to pin point “what takes rebirth” even as an object or manufacture of rebirth which is neither self nor nonself what would you pin point it towards? For example, the mind is behind everything so it would be the mind under wrong views that take rebirth which is manufacturer or creator of this life or that life or even lifestream(?) and we have a small window being human (or being born in the times when Buddha is alive) to get rid of this ignorance so mind attains Nibbana, agree?
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