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@Christian: “It’s not image on the wall to make an idea about it like in some gallery or meeting. It’s wisdom that needs to be actualized so your mind experience leaps over or changes over time.”
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First of all if you re-read the post really attentively you’ll notice that I also refer to insight/wisdom (as you wrote) part : “Anicca can’t be confined to the physical/psychic/moral human-condition – even if human “mano” (mind) is a flagrant example of it”.
To perceive Anicca just as the”inability to maintain anything at one’s own satisfaction” it’s, let’s say, ok BUT isn’t enough. Anicca is an omnipresent cosmic fact which is in every-thing-and-being; from the lowest petras to the highest brahmas, humans, animals…whatever. Except Nibanna.
Otherwise one should recognise Anicca in oneself and around oneself.
@Lal : no, it’s a typing mistake on my side , i wanted to mean SUN.
Anicca applies to everything, is in everything but i choose to took the Sun as an example.
Because i appreciate the Sun…
One should recognise Anicca in oneself and around oneself.
@Lal Said
“Most of us cannot understand yet why one needs to stop rebirths in all realms.
The intellectual understanding of the “why” it’s not difficult…
but what is your understanding on the subject ?@Lal said “Then that would not count towards rebirth. ”
The above should be understood as kusala kamma not having any influence
upon rebirth?In some cases it seems that it’s true what you are saying about their behavior however one shouldn’t generalize.
This said what has “indulging in sexuality etc” to do with “Some schools , like Dzogchen etc” ?!
I hope that you succeed in dissolving your own whole mass (and mess) of craving because if you didn’t not indulging will be of no-service for you .
“I think this is part of the teachings of the Buddha.Do you see any trouble or any great problems?”
Yes it is mentioned in some Suttas i.e. the Sutta Piṭaka (subject to confirmation).But not exactly with the same language.
A relatively known example is when The Gotama says that one shouldn’t become obsessed by formal practice/thoughts about it if for a reason or another one can’t practice that very day. Then one should let go. Otherwise the wholesome (practice and thinking about the practice) will become unwholesome…Your post it’s about thoughts-observation but thinking it’s one thing and acting is another…
@Siebe07
“For me it feels like the practise shift due to growing wisdom towards non-investment” – in this you seem right. Or at least to shift towards selected investment…? On the other hand: one often attaches to much importance to the (im)permanence concept and “polemics”.
Better to reason in terms of “inconsistency” – ultimately what really counts is that which (behavior,attitude,decision) effectively meets the 4 Noble Truths.
The perception of a “I” / “me” (ego) that is, of a psychic entity associated to our body (and vice-versa) it’s not a catastrophe, the problem is when such perception degenerates into egocentric behavior – then soon or later one becomes …helpless…Hi @Johnny_Lim
“Of course this contemplation is only one aspect of Tilakkahana.” Sorry not sure to which contemplation you’re referring, yours or mine? Both perhaps.
Well any contemplation on Tilakhanna not coming from a Buddha will surely be incomplete. On the other hand my own understanding on Tilakhanna isn’t limited to the definitions given here, even if they are right in and of themselves.
Renounce to everything while still living a common life within society will drive you mad as much as excess/overindulgence.To introduce detachment within healthy and honest usufruct is the true Middle Way for lay people. And what’s to introduce detachment within honest and healthy usufruct of life ? “I enjoyed the fireworks (with a clean mind) as much as i already forgot it; both the fireworks and the joy i already forgot them – thus preventing bad kamma”.
@Johnny_Lim ” It is our inability to maintain the sense experience consistently the way we want it to be and the helplessness towards this whole sense experience that is the problem”
Helplessness only when one attempts to “crystallize” what’s happening according one’s preferences ? Which is to say according one’s clingings ? Otherwise there will be no dukkha. Because you see it’s fine to say “Anicca : we can’t maintain anything according our satisfation” but it’s even finer to understand WHY. Same goes for “anatta: …and then we become helpless” (because of anicca according puredhamma).
It’s not wrong to feel satisfied as much as we are aware that human satisfaction it’s fragile feeling – like any other feeling.
I enjoyed the fireworks as much as i already forgot it – both the fireworks and the joy i already forgot them.
Again it’s clear that to define Anicca and Anatta in only one way it will impoverish the understanding of both. Because both have alot of facets and both are commutable – since (as the Buddha said) “everything is mind wrought”.
“But sometimes (when one has a weak mind and does not pay attention), one may just “go with the flow” according to one’s environment.”
Hence the importance of Satipattana.
Til this very day i was convinced that brahmas were beyond gender…how can such a subtle being be male or female ?! Amazing…
@Lal…
I know that the Sutta it’s not about a real fire – it couldn’t be.
I was simply making an analogy, kind of, meaning that christian hell based upon fire rather exists in our plane because of lobha-moha-dosa.Thanks for Kāyānupassanā link.
“don’t do to others that which you wouldn’t like that others do unto you”
The above is known as having been said by the Christ but it seems that Gautama Buddha also said something similar?
@Lal: “Those with “really covered minds” or moha will have no remorse even. So, indeed it is good that M “feels unsettled”.” This reminds me christian morals…remorse,redemption and salvation.
But of course there is a fondamental difference : in puredhamma underlying remorse,redemption and salvation there is an effort towards the understanding and integration of profound truths; whilst in christianity the major motivation is not to displease a god which will punish you by putting you in hell – the christian apayas made of fire ! And at the right moment that i’m writing the latter it suddenly comes to my mind…:https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/sn/sn35/sn35.028.nymo.html
“The eye is burning, forms are burning, eye-consciousness is burning, eye-contact is burning, also whatever is felt as pleasant or painful or neither-painful-nor-pleasant that arises with eye-contact for its indispensable condition, that too is burning. Burning with what? Burning with the fire of lust, with the fire of hate, with the fire of delusion. I say it is burning with birth, aging and death, with sorrows, with lamentations, with pains, with griefs, with despairs.”
Does the Tipitaka in Sinhala confirms this translation ?
