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Lal,
Certainly…As far as I understood the mental body of a human bhava can degenerate and reborn into an animal bhava let’s suppose an eagle or a tiger,because of lack of merits…?
So logically there will be less dukkha in a case where the gandhabba is the one of a deceased child, one who was not more than 7 years old…
Thanks to all yet my question wasn’t exactly about that…and by the way i can feel that the Gandhabba is not a fantasy, that is, as one commonly says : I BELIEVE IN ITS EXISTENCE. As for the exceptional case of the arhantship at 7 years old, well, it’s an…exception.
My question is about the contradiction/trouble (well I see it as a trouble) between all the experience(s) collected by a gandhabba and the fact that once in a new baby body, that very same gandhabba can’t express itself fully; there it is, with all its memories and “knowledges” and learned languages yet reduced to silence or almost, trapped in a brain and in a body that will limit its expression for years and years…
What a traumatic experience,lots of Dukkha, it’s the case to say…
@Anchal said “The gathi predominant at the time of death and awareness is only the deciding factors for the next realm in which rebirth would take place.”
YES. Excellent Anchal. Be back to the other comments asap.
…more concretely:
Practice contemplation:
1. On all kind of decomposed women corpses by visualizing or with pics.
2. On the foul aspects of your own body (i.e. the 32 parts).
3. On the drawbacks of indulging in the gross pleasures that you mentioned:
– Considerable loss of energy, feeling of shame /demotivation…any drawback you can find !
4. Moreover 1.2.3. will help you improving your understanding of Tilakhanna.
5. If and when you feel strong enough – test yourself: watch briefly some porno, then consciously switch off the screen and don’t masturbate – it’s about putting together understanding and willpower towards the same end!1 user thanked author for this post.
Hi @Tien
If you read the Sutta you’ll notice that the problem lies in the ground for the landing of consciousness.
Thanks ALOT @SengKiat
With metta
Yeos@Lal said “When one has extreme version of kama raga (abhijja), the power of the metta bhavana is the weakest. One is just reciting without much effect.”
Absolutely; it’s elementary. Now it’s also depending on gathi, on specific kamma.
Some people look kind and compassionate to everybody despite being unaware of the Dhamma.
They are all the time talking about and furthering “unconditional love” (see social networks).
Yet such attitude can but be a mood/disposition thus fragile because not Dhamma-grounded.1 user thanked author for this post.
Excellent,all that is needed is in your answers.
I have only one more doubt; @Lal: “Mara would not encourage people to do bad, immoral things. He just wants people to to moral deeds and to become a deva like him.” But isn’t Mara the deva whose “specialty” consists in arising great lust in people ?
Thanks once more.
“What person X experiences is experienced by X’s gandhabba (mental body).”
That which makes experiencing possible is the gandhabba,not the reverse. Otherwise one’s body wouldn’t perish once the gandhabba leaves it.
OR: gandhabba makes experiencing possible as much as the body of flesh of a person with its sense doors.
If we all come from brahmas then subtle engendering gross prevails upon the reverse , only afterwards gross has the possibility of engendering the subtle through Dhamma, til Nibanna.
hi @Student…(aren’t we all…?)
- “why not the start” … apparently (but only apparently) the Buddha was not an adept of a “start”. Didn’t you already notice how much boring can be to have a start (and thus an end) clearly in your mind ?
- What brings you more satisfaction : the quest for solving a mystery or its solution? Notice how boring can be when hindus start talking about the Brahman (NOT Brahma. Brahman equates to Supreme Consciousness) : from the Brahman you came (in a way or another) to the Brahman you’ll return and that’s all folks. Isn’t this somehow disappointing ? But that which Gotama Buddha proposes it’s vertiginously original…
- Also the more one approaches nibanna, the less one cares about “start”…
- Moreover he knew that such quest would become just one more source of clinging (possibly the biggest one) thus of suffering…
@Lal said “I was made unconscious under the supervision of an anesthesiologist. They injected something and I was gone (unconscious) for over 30 minutes. I saw a black screen and I was gone”
What about “you” as a gandhabba ? If it is still sheathed in the body of flesh at that moment, such equates to the presence of (a) mind, and it doesn’t matter if the body is temporarily out…
For isn’t the gandhabba also a concentrated of mind ?
From “Science of Consciousness Foundational”, AcademiaEdu :
“The textbook: Irreducible Mind: Toward a Psychology for the
21st Century, written by a whole team at Virginia University, ‘presents empirical evidence that reductive materialism is not only incomplete but false.’ The neural correlates of consciousness
(NCC: minimal activity needed to generate consciousness), so-called, are themselves components of thorough inquiry, and the above label has proven a literal anathema in terms of meaningfulness: e.g. a multitude of cases have been investigated where brain functions have ceased yet continuity of experience is even more vividly emergent. Post-Dead Experiences: where brain functions have ceased yet continuity of experience is more vividly emergent. ”Such “continuity of experience” might be provided by the gandhabba…
