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The monks of the monastery talk about how Jati is the Dukkha that the Buddha taught about. The mind which is just a process, experiences a self and then that leads to fear, anger,desire,etc. If this feeling is realised then no more suffering.
Another thing I realised that I overthink alot. Whenever I see people of different religions on YouTube talk about how their religion is true and everything else is false and if you don’t follow them, you will be burnt in hell forever. This is about abrahmic religions. These things kind of depress me and make me anxious and I feel like why do they say this? Whats the evidence for their such claims? Then on further research I found how every such religion has found a way to claim that their holy books contain all the scientific verses.
It’s like I have a “fear” of miccha ditthi. But I again go on with understanding the dhamma more and realising that it’s true. But this “fear” along with overthinking causes more problem again.
This overthinking used to happen me many years ago also but on a completely different issue of pornography.
I have been experiencing immense fear that also causes my hands and legs to shiver when I am focusing on the “me” part. Yesterday it was so strong that I felt that there’s something problematic with my heart and I felt low bp that I had to rush to the hospital at 3am. They did all the diagnostics but everything was perfect physically. They said that it’s because of anxiety. What should I do? This fear is so strong and it’s acting like a hindrance. I am afraid to even listen to the dhamma. I was not able to sleep at all.
For the energy one,
There is just energy out there in the “free form” like light energy, heat energy, etc. and in Condensed or compressed form which is Matter.
I don’t know the exact details as I don’t have intrinsic knowledge about this stuff, I would advise you to talk to some AI like meta or chatgpt for this query, it’s very helpful.
What we should know is that there is just energy and the mind has created its own world.
The Self part
It’s not something that’s absolute. It’s not an energy. But the mind could be seen as an energy or a process that can think.
It’s a mental feeling. The same way we feel things to be “fixed”. That fire example of how we feel a Manifestation to be an Entity.
Same for our mind. It’s just a process that interacts/cognizes.
Check this video, it explains everything in detail. This is not something difficult. It’s only Subtle.
Is threading a needle difficult? No. It’s very subtle and requires strong focus. Same with realising the truth!
It’s like a Magic trick, if once understood would lose all its value and the mind would attain freedom.
Upekkha: “For the above, do you mean everything is energy vibrating at different frequencies that the eyes are not able to see visibly with the naked eye? We can only see such energies or the fire for what it truly is with our third eye when we open it, as the Buddha did after his enlightenment.”
Yes!
The world doesn’t look like anything!
There is nothing but energy out there taking different forms.
For light energy, our eye converts it in an electrical signal. What does an electrical signal look like? Nothing.
But somehow the brain processes it and then the mind now experiences sight and colour etc.
Wear a coloured goggle. Let’s take a yellow coloured goggle ( I have that one so that’s why). Everything would appear yellowish now, the world would appear yellowish. But did the world change? No. Even sight and colour is causal , that’s why this effect has changed as the condition has changed.
Similarly for all senses, it’s just pure energy out there, but our mind experiences taste,touch,smell,sight, sound, etc.
It’s all Fabricated! It’s a completely Mental World!
We don’t really need to know the exact meaning of the words in the most accurate form in order to attain Nibbana( obviously it’s very helpful to understand the truth, but after that it can be explained by an ariya without using complex terms and in any language)
It’s all about Understanding and Realising, the true Nature of the Mind and Sansara.
Read this and I won’t use any pali terms. I would try my best.
Everything is subject to Cause and Effect. Everything is a Manifestation.
Let’s take the example of Fire.
We need oxygen, wood, and temperature as causes and the combination of all three in the right amount as the condition. It would manifest a fire. As long as the causes and conditions are there, the fire would continue to Manifest.
In order to Cease the fire from arising, Change the cause or condition . Now the fire won’t manifest.
The fire was being Manifested every moment and then it was ceasing, but the causes and conditions were still there, so again manifestation and then cessation.
There was no One Continuous Fire!
Try to slow down the time and imagine it. Every moment the causes and conditions manifesting a fire. But the process is so fast , it appears as if there is one single fire.
This is Anicca. This applies to everything, even to the mind. Our ignorant mind feels as Self the same way it felt that the Fire is One and Is the Same fire burning. The mind likes to make Entities.
For Anatta, I understand it as nothing is worth holding onto, nothing has value in this Sansara.
Let’s the example of a Hungry dog eating a bone.
The dog would smell meat in that bone because of some residue and would start to lick it. Now the dog is convinced that this flavour is in the bone. It licks and eats it and also crushes it. After sometime the broken pieces of the Bone damage the gums of the dog and its gums start to bleed.
The foolish dog now believes that this tasty blood is in this bone. So it would continue to eat it, not being able to satisfy his hunger, his craving and also causing damage to itself.
Enjoying it’s own destruction!
In the same way us beings also find value in the Sansaric Phenomena. Sensuality, materialistic possession, etc. Here the Pleasure cycle works that gives us nothing of Value but degrades our mentality more and more causing nothing but misery.
Dukkha would simply not realising the above and therefore experiencing every horror possible. Fear, anger, desire, mental fatigue, depression, anxiety, confusion.
I hope I could explain it some extent.
These understandings can take time, it depends on the individuals mind and practice.
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I have seen many people not grasping what is meant by disattachment so I will try to make it clear as I understand as it’s very important.
Even many bhikkus in India teach that in order to be free from sexual cravings, focus on the filth of the body and see how disgusting that is. It includes everything , the bones, blood ,rotting nature ,etc.
That is completely wrong.
If the mind generates aversion towards anything thinking that it’s disattachment, it’s not so. It’s still attachment but now through Aversion (earlier it was through Desire). If something creates a disgusting feeling in the mind, it’s a flawed concept, nothing is disgusting and nothing is beautiful. Everything is Neutral.
We must realise that this feeling is being generated in our minds. There are people who desire to have sex with dead bodies, some eat rotten bodies. Why don’t they experience any filth or disgust? It’s all in the mind.
Instead focus on the burning nature of the mind whenever it experiences desire, aversion and delusion.
That happens because this mind which is a process experiences itself as a Self.
So no need to generate any aversion towards anything thinking that it’s disattachment.
Disattachment is realising that there is no value in any Rupa,Vedana,Sanna,Sankhara and Vinnana. Realise their neutral nature and also how we experience a Self
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Gandhabba comes from Gandha + Abba, which means to absorb odour. The gandhabba becomes a little dense after absorbing odour but still not visible to human eye.
A Brahmas body doesn’t do that and also that is a completely different mind and body which doesn’t crave sensuality. A human Gandhabba craves for sensuality but cannot experience it in that state so has to wait for a physical body
It all depends on the minds wisdom level, it’s possible that a sotappana can become a pornstar and have sex with multiple partners, but his mind would know for sure that this is not happiness rather an illusion. It’s a trap. That’s why his mindset won’t go so low that he would be born a preta or an animal. Many pornstars with time especially males, get so into that act that they even do such scenes that are so disgusting, for example drinking saliva of multiple women mixed together !This is the least one. I know about many things that I can’t even mention here. Isn’t that a Preta Gati?
If that person would have been a normal guy with a normal life , his mind may have not went to this level.
It’s all about understanding the truth.
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What I understand Morality and Immorality is that if any thought,speech or action creates Suffering, it’s immoral.
Any action that reduces the suffering without increasing it anywhere else , is moral.
For example If someone commits rape , that person would be feeling pleasure but would be imparting suffering on the other person. Immoral act with lobha
If someone gives something to eat to a poor hungry beggar, it would increase Metta in the givers mind and also reduce hunger/suffering in the other person’s body and mind. Moral act with Alobha
Having multiple partners has a higher tendency of increasing Kama raga in a Puthujana’s mind. That person would be convinced that this is ultimate happiness and must be pursued. That’s for sure.
Let’s take one simple example.
Our Ancestors didn’t have any internet, their lives were very normal and calming as compared to our lives. No pornography, no social media addiction, no drugs , no unnecessary disputes because no strong hate as no strong kama raga, generally.
But an average modern day teenager suffers from such addictions. Why? Because an Ignorant mind is trapped when presented with limitless options for sensuality. But this doesn’t mean that everyone is trapped in this.
Strong minded and wise people use this technology for their benefit and for others benefit.
But the tendency has increased enormously to suffer because of such things.
When the North Korean Soldiers were deployed in Russia few months back, they all got addicted to pornography! They had never seen such a thing before but their ignorant minds instantly got attached to this thing. Weren’t they okay before? No one’s okay, a puthujana would be trapped in this some day when the Asava And Anusuya get triggered.
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I’ve been experiencing something profound lately. When I focus deeply on the Dhamma, I feel an overwhelming sense of calmness and relaxation. Everything around me seems to brighten up.
- As I delve deeper, I’ve started to see myself as a process that cognizes, rather than a fixed ‘me’ or ‘I.’ It’s a strange yet calming feeling.
- However, when I focus too much on the ‘me’ part, I experience fear – it’s as if the self doesn’t want to let go! But when I return to a more normal understanding, the fear subsides.
- My experience isn’t as intense as the jhana feelings people often describe, but it’s related. I feel calm, serene, and connected to the Dhamma.
- Physically, I’ve noticed some interesting sensations – the room seems brighter, I get goosebumps for no reason, and I’ve even felt a slight cold sensation that disappears quickly.
Also, I’ve cried a little when understanding the Dhamma deeply. It’s a feeling that comes and goes.
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I know that a sotappana has an understanding of the dhamma that’s why he won’t be born in an apaya as no extreme desire in the mind. I have mentioned that the sensual desires if pursued blindly would lead one to be trapped in believing it to be a source of happiness.
Also the civil services exam part, many people who are even wealthy and enjoy comforts take part in such exams just for pride and honour, that too comes under the same thing I mentioned earlier. I know strong kama raga is dangerous in any form and I was specifically asking for the sexual pleasure part and how society influences it. And I hope that the exam part was not a taunt on me from your side after our disagreement on this topic on whatsapp, as you know that I am also appearing for those exams not to enjoy some nonsense pride but because I don’t have anything except for education as I too belong to the dalit category and you know that very well.
With Metta
It was a misunderstanding between me and jittananto from my side , everything is sorted now 🙏🏻
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I know that a sotappana has an understanding of the dhamma that’s why he won’t be born in an apaya as no extreme desire in the mind. I have mentioned that the sensual desires if pursued blindly would lead one to be trapped in believing it to be a source of happiness.
Also the civil services exam part, many people who are even wealthy and enjoy comforts take part in such exams just for pride and honour, that too comes under the same thing I mentioned earlier. I know strong kama raga is dangerous in any form and I was specifically asking for the sexual pleasure part and how society influences it. And I hope that the exam part was not a taunt on me from your side after our disagreement on this topic on whatsapp, as you know that I am also appearing for those exams not to enjoy some nonsense pride but because I don’t have anything except for education as I too belong to the dalit category and you know that very well.
With Metta
Understandable.
But isn’t it true that engaging in sex with multiple partners has a higher chance of increasing Sexual desire to the level of apayas than with a single spouse if we keep out the societal worries of that act? In Western society it’s okay to engage in sex before marriage and people have a high body count, the society approves of this , but aren’t they very lonely and tired, I have read about many peoples stories
Here in India, Having Sex outside marriage has been legalised. So adultery is okay now, but won’t it create a high risk for the people to go in the apayas as they would be more inclined to experience variety of bodies for sexual pleasure.
Same for pornstars, the western society is okay with it, but won’t they suffer immensely, I know of many pornstars who died by suicide.
What I want to say is that apart from societal norms, engaging in more of any sensual pleasure would inevitably increase the chance to be trapped further in the Vicious pleasure cycle. Would a sotappana commit adultery if the society is okay with it?
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