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“At marker 2.1: “Rūpā saddā rasā gandhā, phassā dhammā ca kevalā; Iṭṭhā kantā manāpā ca, yāvatatthīti vuccati.” Translation is better as follows: “Sights, sounds, tastes, smells, touches, and ideas/memories, all of them—they’re likable, desirable, and pleasurable as long as you believe that they are real. “
But these things are real, it’s just they are not present in the objects. These are mental perceptions which are real ( since mind is real). This translation may create some confusions.
So it means that we have never really experienced the external world in its absolute form?
We only perceive the external world in our own ways. So we have never really seen, smelt, tasted, touched and heard any external thing? It’s just how we perceive the world?
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https://youtu.be/bapkyxrWd5Y?si=G8iUZtfkU2WCaWVD
In this Video Waharaka thero says that the Devas Extract the Scent from the fruits and distribute among themselves. So if a fruit generates a positive Sanna in humans, then why it also generates the same in the Devas? I know that even monkeys like fruits just like us but why is it so with the Devas? They don’t have a physical body to eat the fruit and gain nutrition so why do they experience good Sanna for these things?
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So now we can say that every thing has the three components of vanna gandha and Rasa but individual species’ bodies would then further create the Sanna that is required for them?
Insects like to eat rotten stuff, but we humans can’t eat it. That rotten food also has the Rasa component but it’s not compatible with our bodies but is with the insect’s bodies?
So A Tasty Sanna would be felt by the insects but an Awful Sanna would be felt by us humans.
Same with the other components?
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Thanks.
So would it be wrong to say that everything is mental?
What exactly happens during seeing? Do we see what’s out there as the light reflects back from the object or its just completely a different fabrication? Since colour is not in the outside world, what do we really see?
Is it correct to say that matter exists in the outside world and we use our minds to experience a mental version of it?
Like the table is really in the outside world and not because I can sense it through my senses?
If I eat a cake , is the cake really in the outside world composed of matter or its just a mental thing because I can see,smell,hear,taste,touch it? What if the senses are not present?
I want complete clarity on this topic 🙏🏻
Thanks. I think I misunderstood it I will further clarify it in the meeting
Another thing is that if our colour perception occurs due to our physical eyes and light then what do people with OBEs and NDEs see? Do they see the world in the same way as they did with the human body?
I have read the whole pdf and it has answered the Asmi Mana part very clearly. That John example was very good.
Thanks again Amin for this valuable piece of Dhamma
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I have read the transcription till page 13. It exactly addresses what we need to focus on.
Also the Anicca, Dukkha, Anatta meaning is the same as interpreted by Jethvanarama Buddhist monastery. It says things are based on causes and conditions, that’s why we cannot keep them the way we want. This is how expectation arises as we “fix” that effect as an entity and perceive essence in it.
The thero has perfectly explained all that and how all the three are interconnected.
Thanks Amin for this valuable piece of Dhamma.
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I had the meeting with the bhikku and now I am well. I was doing a mistake but now I know what to do. Everything is fine now.
This means one more thing that trying to progress on Nibbana requires a teacher. We need to be careful as what we practice could be diverted by ignorance.
I was confusing Nibbana as No Self and Annihilation without even realising it!
I was mistaken by what the bhikkus were trying to communicate maybe.
This is the reason I was and am experiencing fear. It’s like focusing on Asanna state maybe.
I now feel my mistake. What should I do now? This fear arises again as I have been practicing it for long, so this feeling of no self comes again and again.
It was like “I am nothing?” Or “I don’t exist” etc.
What is the cure for this sir?
Can I use Light as a meditation object for cultivating jhanas? I feel a strong sense of relief whenever I see white light. In this sermon,Ven.Waharaka Thero says that how the qualities of Aloka(light) can be used as a karmasthana. Aloka would mean transcending the loka, or Nibbana. Because of this nature of mind, light exists that has the quality to help us see the hidden or eradicate darkness. I am thinking of doing this with also using the dhamma meaning of aloka while focusing on light.
The monks of the monastery twist the meaning of the verses of other religions in order to explain the dhamma. Like Ven. Amadassana Thero said he believes in GOD but for him his definition of god is Give or Deny. This is kamma and kamma vipaka he’s explaining using GOD. Also he uses the Bible Phrase “The truth shall set you free” and then uses the dhamma and proves how it’s the truth and how it will lead to freedom from suffering.
They do this out of compassion for every other person of different religion as it may cause irritation if the beliefs of someone are attacked. An ignorant mind tries it’s best to defend its belief as it feels it can’t be wrong( self ego).
And I would also advise not to judge anyone only because they appear straight forward. I understand using harsh words are not good, but apart from that if someone doesn’t sugarcoat his/her statements there’s nothing wrong with that. I expect straight forward answers without any sugarcoating. The Truth.
If someone gets offended if his /her beliefs are being targeted, it’s because that being lacks Wisdom Faculty.
