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  • in reply to: Maha Brahma’s Domain #32904
    Vinh
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    i wouldnt say i completetly understood that but that specfic brahma of the highest 1 st jhana has a life span of exactly 1 aeon(buddhist world age) expecialy when the world age ends and everything retracts back into the second jhana plane it becomes apparent there being no end to the cycle there also was a mention of him attaining sotappana after the buddha visited him but i cant remember where i read that so a confirmation or not would be helpful.thank you very much for you answer.

    in reply to: Maha Brahma’s Domain #32888
    Vinh
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    the devas all also seemed always conected to natural forces like deva of fire etc so maha brahma would be a deva/brahma connected to the physcial universe at least 10.000(which was the number given when people reffered to maha brahma in the sutras) world systems of control would be an accurate representation of that which is ofc the lowest brahma plane but things inside it would be his sphere of influence(ofc lesser brahmas would be his staff)(with mara being like a big shareholder in it ) .i also heared that a brahma or deva can take physcial shape by manifesting a course body so maybe that is how the idea of an allmighty etc creator began to circulate or a brahma of maha brahmas retinue got reborn as human re collecting his past live which is think is what may have been jesus after all what he seemed to have taught were the brahma viharas(if that guy even existed).this is just what id find most coherent and easist to imagine for me but i am not an expert so i hope to find some educated guess on the subject or even answer.i was using the sutta center translation.

    in reply to: Maha Brahma’s Domain #32887
    Vinh
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    thank you for responding the confusing part for me was that buddha acknowledged his domain Buddhas quote:Brahmā, I too know that if I attach to earth, I will lie close to you, in your domain, vulnerable and expendable. If I attach to water … fire … air … creatures … gods … the Creator … Brahmā, I will lie close to you, in your domain, vulnerable and expendable. ofc the buddha or any being above the first jhana is above that degree but it doesnt invalidate his claim for those lower than him(so brahma seemed not completetly wrong but he missed crucial details that the buddha knew but not him which explains why he could remain deluded for that long afterall brahma is pretty old. this being also seems to be what christians pray too so even there claims arent unfounded as they like to call him allmighty etc which the buddha defined what he can do/do not which isnt allmight ofc(nothing like that exists but he appears to thm like that for a reason)). the thing i understood it its similar two how tavatimsa has the most influence in comparison to the other heavens(above tavatimsa is the last in contact with earth i think) on earth like how the 4 kings report to sakra once in a few moons( i think it was) whats happening on earth or how we humans dictate the “fate”(ofc what they make out of it is there own choice thus there next rebirth is to some degree there choice although ignorance being the strong karma in this realm thus making escaping it hard but never impossible) of the animals/how we like to mess with them from time to time. so i imagined it like jurasdiction exept that the higher ones dont know who the chief is (i mean even human realm has minimum contact with the realm higher than them and its uncommon to see the action of that realm without some mastery in the divine eye through birth or practice so it seems aproptiate to think its also not the norm that lower heavens dont necessarily know higher abodes than them with maybe a few individuals knowing but not the majority) excluding the pure abodes who are oblivious to matters of dominion.

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