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Tobias G
ParticipantUnderstood, but then it makes not much sense to engage in mundane satipattāna or anāpānasati when a person is still a puthujjano with wrong worldviews. Nowadays, however, most seekers do this, they engage in walking and breathing meditation and think that this will lead to something enlightenment-related. They simply lack the complete worldview and dangers of samsara. They lack dukkha sacca and understanding of Nibbana.
The best way is to learn Buddha Dhamma and remove micca ditthi, get a basic understanding of tilakkhana/PS/cattari ariya sacca, become a Sotapanna (Anugami). After that one can start satipattāna and anāpānasati. Is this view too extreme?
Tobias G
ParticipantLink to the text: Ānāpānasati – Overview
Under #10, MN 118 is discussed.
“Ānāpānassati, bhikkhave, bhāvitā bahulīkatā cattāro satipaṭṭhāne paripūreti.”
- Translation: “Ānāpānasati (Bhāvanā), when developed and cultivated, fulfills the four sections of the satipaṭṭhāna (Bhāvanā.)
“Nāhaṁ, bhikkhave, muṭṭhassatissa asampajānassa ānāpānassatiṁ vadāmi.”
- Translation: “I do not teach this Ānāpānasati (Bhāvanā) to those who do not have (sammā) sati.”
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The above means that only a Sotapanna or higher can start the correct Ānāpānasati, because he/she has samma ditthi (and samma sati). Does this apply also to satipattāna as anāpānasati fulfills satipattāna?
Tobias G
ParticipantOne more I found: Paticca Samuppada is pati+icca + san+uppada. The second part san+uppada is explained as “san arising”.
If we see san as adding, then it could be ok, because we add new bhava with the akusala mula PS.
Tobias G
ParticipantThanks Lal! Bhikkhu Bodhi says a pure octad is a kalāpa.
Also in §9 same page he mentions 4 modes of origin of rupa: kamma, citta, utu, ahara. Can you explain those modes? How can the link to javana citta be understood?
Tobias G
ParticipantOk, “bhuta” is there in abhidhamma, e.g. Vb1.
Do you have a reference to “suddhāṭṭhaka” in the commentary?
Tobias G
ParticipantWhen i search at Suttacentral, does it also search in pali abhidhamma pitaka? There are many results for bhūta in sutta pitaka.
Tobias G
ParticipantThen understanding about Suddhāṭṭhaka is not that important for progress on the path, right?
The higher entity is bhūta. The manual from Bhikkhu Bodhi starts with bhūta. I do not find the word suddhāṭṭhaka (the search function does not properly work in the pdf). I guess the bhūta element is in the Tipitaka?Tobias G
ParticipantCan anyone suggest a good Pali book for beginners? I would like to learn how to read Pali.
Tobias G
Participant“Mind immersing in rūpa” means to perceive “value” in rupa, which is based on avijja. Thus “avijja paccaya sankhara…(kamma)vinnana” happens.
People tend to take the face value of things to be real (because of avijja). Therefore they are trapped in samsara.
As Lal translates from Brahmanimantanika Sutta (MN 49):
“Viññāna is unseen, infinite, and leads to the rebirth process for all. With viññāna, one cannot comprehend the real nature of pathavi, āpo, tējo, vāyo, bhūtā, deva, pajapti brahma, abhassara brahma, subhakinha brahma, vehapphala brahma, etc. (in any realm) in this world (sabba)”.
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Tobias G
ParticipantAs soon as the mind immerses in rupa (made of maha bhuta), names rupa, identification with rupa develops. It is then only a small step to identification as “my rupa”. So the Dhamma follower has to realize the true nature of rupa, which is ghost-like (bhuta).
If the mind does not immerse in rupa, joy of non-immersion or niramisa sukkha arises.If one perceived “patavi as patavi”, one has not understood the ghost-like nature, also immediately grasps such objects as “value” and the akusala mula PS can run.
You can often see people immersed in objects (rupa), thinking it is valuable, but not realizing the futility of all their efforts.
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Tobias G
ParticipantDear Saket, is there any reference source for your above statement? In the Tipitaka or a commentary?
Tobias G
ParticipantSaket, as you say: “The real Bodhi Tree CAN NOT be destroyed by anything or anyone in the universe because it is the focal point of the Pure Immeasurable Buddha Energy.“
Therefore I wonder if the Bodhi tree in India can be the real one. Everything in this world will be destroyed. But as written in Wikipedia, why shall it happen so early for the Bodhi tree in India?
Tobias G
ParticipantWikipedia says, Jaya Sri Maha Bodhi is a twig-branch of the Bodhi tree in India. I guess the Jaya Sri Maha Bodhi was never destroyed?
June 8, 2023 at 10:53 am in reply to: post on Vipallāsa (Diṭṭhi, Saññā, Citta) Affect Saṅkhāra #45247Tobias G
ParticipantWith the understanding of this vipallasa, it also becomes clear why a sotapanna has few impurities left. He is attracted only by kama, but has (largely) grasped the anicca and anatta nature. Of course, the attraction of kama is quite strong, but it is no longer enough for strong apunnabhisankhara.
June 8, 2023 at 5:22 am in reply to: post on Vipallāsa (Diṭṭhi, Saññā, Citta) Affect Saṅkhāra #45241Tobias G
ParticipantThat does not really make sense: 4 vipallasa + 3 vipallasa?
Everywhere on this website it is stated that anicca, dukkha, anatta are lakkhana. The opposites are vipallasa?
The 3 types are ditthi, sanna, citta vipallasa. The 4 types are nicca, sukha, atta, subha. But only Pe 9 states those 4 types. Can you mention this in the post?
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