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Can you explain more on gathi in that context? For example gathi is translated as habit, changing habits take a lot of time (and sometimes it’s impossible without Dhamma insight or because person is not born as Tihetuka) so “just thinking” about something in form of Gandhabba will make one change the form? It seems I get used to “mundane” gathi or physical-body gathi. Something ain’t right here for me, I understand what you mean but I can not picture it in logical way yet, but got the glimpse.
So for example:
- You have physical body so the mind-energy that influence Gandhabba would be “slowed” as physical body can not catch up with changes that quickly. If someone is addicted to eating chocolate and does not want it, he can not change gathi on the go because brain/human body limits those sudden changes (as it’s not gandhaba form)
- If you die and gandhabba comes out now because of less density now “bhava” becoming a limit factor, so what here will be dominant in change? gathi, kamma or gandhaba? (I guess calculation is based on both in cuti-patisandi moment)
- Even finer bodies as you explain in deva would react to deva thoughts but what about kamma, kamma of the thought is enough to change bhava?
There are some missing links or me it terms of priority of calculation in kamma/gathi/bhava changes, I also accept if this is one of unthinakbles so if that go beyond our reach of understanding we will drop it
The only explanation is that frog attained jhana. It’s pretty interesting if jhana would be possible for animals :)
Three potential explanations:
- Frog attained jhana
- Frog attained samadhi (which is not regular state of mind that you can set yourself up thru emotions, but doubt as this takes one effort)
- Frog was at the end of bhava and things happen because of good kamma of the frog.
I think Yash misintepreting emotions (vedana) with mental state (citta)
There was other sutta when dying monk was taught by Ananda metta meditation, Buddha “scolded” Ananda that he should teach him Dhamma (Anicca, Dukkha and Anatta) so they come to his realm of devas to teach him Dhamma. Seems if the is strong samadhi and proper citta it may influence rebirth to some extent but I would not say it’s bulletproof method. It may work for certain individuals only.
The point is that Metta worked as gateway to jhana, you can not have metta without jhana to be honest the frog example is really interesting.
That’s not true because “trying to become something/someone” is not root cause but consequence of ignorance. You need to find the first cause or first reason why person want to become something then you will find that the reason you talking about is wrong.
There is sutta when Buddha say even “good” people to lower realms and “bad” people go to higher realms.
To understand the Buddha Dhamma and accept that you need to have the fear of Samsara
It’s impossible to become Sotapanna with fear, as fear is unwholesome state of mind. Saying that “become Sotapanna or you go to hell” is such bad take, that what catholic and other religious people do to fear people into practice thru fear. This will never work, as saying “do not bad things or you go to jail” – why people are still in jail? People work differently and this is actually ignorance that may harm Buddhism in eyes of many people who do not understand it properly. First people need to understand the concepts and the main messege of Buddha, later the things as “hell” become self evident so you just starting from the wrong foot and side which means you need to understand Buddha Dhamma better. Plus video shows wrong Dhamma concepts that are not really Dhamma but religious addition like “state of mind before dying” etc. also how she went to hell instantly without doing antariya kamma? This video is just fear inducing religious stuff that unintentionally mock Buddha Dhamma, people who made do not understand Dhamma and core concepts of it.
To sum it up for people who may see this thread first time – this got nothing to do with Buddhism in pure form.
Sorry to say but this kind of videos will make people ridicule Buddhism, it’s not really different catholic propaganda that they try to fear-guilt people into practice. For most people it does not matter if hell exists or not, they do not care. What they need is to have videos that explain Dhamma in logical manner and approachable way as puredhamma.net explains, I do not think so this type of videos fit this site level of understanding of Dhamma
“Is there a way to check who is teaching the correct Dhamma?”
The problem with checking is that person who checks it needs to have considerate high panna too.
I’m not saying that jhanas are needed for Sotapanna but needed to progress from Sotapanna higher, even to grasp Sotapanna stage you need to have pure mind at that moment by either “grace” of Ariya or be near first jhana to calm your mind
You can not practice anicca sanna with regular mind as everyday mind is kama bhumi, you only will make your mind tired and you will actually have more raga and dosa by doing “anicca sanna” dry
There are plenty of suttas that say you can attain Nibbana, through jhanas, I would say the majority. To attain Nibbana and deepen insight one needs to have a pure mind to understand Anicca, Dukkha, Anatta deeper there is no other way, you will never be able to understand Anicca Dukkha Anatta in regular consciousness or “everyday mind”. All the basis of understanding true nature in the world is based on getting rid of 5 hindrances that block that understanding, once you get rid of those you will be in jhana, whatever you want it or not – the only thing you do not need is formless jhanas.
Saying that jhana may be hindrance is very bad Lang, one should practice chanting + understanding Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta – how something that may help you understand Dhamma better can be a hindrance? It make no sense :)
When you are Sotapanna you are able to see Paticca Samupadda cycle with your mind-eye (dhamma-eye). When you see how things are you are able to see things those things through Dhamma eye which is the new perception of world/life that one gain. To progress, one need to meditate or attain jhana or be close to jhana to have purity. I know Lal would argue or dismiss but I think it’s wrong to dismiss it, based on my practice, one will literally never progress without getting into jhana if you want to progress above Sakadagami, even from Sotapanna to Sakadagami one needs to be at least meditative and have purity of mind to push insight further, so one will need to be at least in close to jhana while chanting. There is no other way to progress. There are rare examples in the suttas like Bahiya etc. but most likely you do not have paramis to just go into Nibbana fully because you are able to realize some Dhamma concepts to some extent, which is not a small feat either but if you want true progress, get into jhana.
for example I thought I was Anagami when I first experienced the new awareness when studied Pure Dhamma, my mind was so deep in samadhi without any effort for many days there were not even inch of hate, greed and lust towards anything in sense doors after sometime it run out and things go back to normal BUT with the new insight and attained which I could work my way up again with permanent results, so your first judgement was probably from that first impact :)
I converted it into images so its easier to share, great work
