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Even going to the mundane and common sense – what is better learning alone things you do not understand or having someone who understand the topic? If I going to give you book on physics or math even for beginner you would have much more problems and trouble then person who have someone who is more advanced and have better understanding (better and PROPER) so you have a lot of clarity moments which it not necessary to be like that when doing things alone without any ideas what those things are about of having assumptions about them of how they are like :)
This does not need any Tipitaka reference. Not everything needs Tipitaka reference if one would be limited like christians or muslims to scriptures it means one is limited to those scriptures and does not develop any wisdom but just blind faith. Tipitaka is Dhamma which makes people develop wisdom so they can apply it to all sorts of things and come up with the clarity and see things the way they are :)
About the question you asked I will show you examples that can gives you a hint. Let say there is musician who can read the music (notes) but without knowing how to play and instrument and hearing one does not really experience the music one reads. Same with people on the Path, one needs to listen to the Dhamma to truly understand it as musicians needs to learn/listen to music to really understand the notes. :)
@Tobias G
The first case of talking to plants or rice is that everything is affected by energy that mind generates. If you generate bad intention or killing intention it can affect living organism to the extent of your javana power, same with metta. People with strong metta can actually trigger bliss factor in others people mind.
@Lal I didn’t mean Axel here really. Back in the days when I was researching supernatural stuff (and the things I experienced) most people just created content based on their imagination not experience to lure people by means of fantasy and “secrecy” but it’s not different then watching horror movie or any other things that excites mind, for those people it does not matter if it’s real or no. :)
I’m always vary and always trying to be rational when it comes to those materials as there is many new age made up stuff that people make to get attention of others for views and monetization to leech off people compulsive day-dreaming and to entertainment by straight lying about what really happens after death etc. but this I think is good one (but still can be made up for the sake of catch up audience)
I was thinking exactly the same way Lal but just wanted to mention it as people who are new can find it contradicting :)
Hello Dhamma brothers :)
I want to ask about #10 verse as the first Lal explains that one can attain Anagami thru Ariya Metta pracitce but once we go lower to the mentioned #10 verse Lal translates it as Sakadagami. Is this mistake or there is something more to this?
Thank you
From what I see the meaning behind is like that:
1) “Hey look at me I attained Nibbana, worship me!” – Breaking precepts
2) “I attained Nibbana, let me help you be free of suffering” – Okay to doBuddha mentioned that using superpowers to coax other people to practice Dhamma is not really right way to do because they would have wrong views about it but at the same time I remember story of Buddha who takes one person who was attached to his girlfriend/wife and could not leave her for a 5 minutes, Buddha showed him other great nymphs in higher realms so he considered that his wife is no more than monkey compared to them, Buddha coaxing him if he follows Noble Path he would be reborn in that realm with all those women so he ordained but at the same time in the process he attained Nibbana, other monks laughed his off as his intention was “impure” but Buddha “scolded” those monks as he already attained Arahantship.
Every situation needs a certain stage of wisdom – we can not act like robots and Buddha never expected that when he states Vinaya, some rules are straightforward but some rules seems to have open space for wisdom of a person and for him to decide and be responsible for his actions.
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Look into those desanas, also I help other people attain Nibbana on the group the way I attained it. We use puredhamma.net as a textbook to explain concepts of Dhamma and apply those things in practical matter with real-life examples. Link is around the forum to the group if you want to join it of course.
I do not think so there will be any satisfactory answer to it until one can start making any effort in 8-fold Path. What happens after Nibbana? Nibbana of course.
The closest explanation I can give is that Nibbana becomes the dominant “layer” before anything at the stage Arahanthood but before that other aggregates can be still dominant like in Sotapanna stage because of yet to be resolved avijja.
As Lal said: “Nibbana is the “state” that is reached when all those are stopped from arising. There are no citta, cetasika, rupa “in Nibbana””
Let us not go this way again. One can not think out the experience of Parinibbana prior to attaining it as a person can not think out the new color that he does not know as thinking process only revolves around what we know already.
The point is that self cannot be the basis of itself so it can not be no/not-self as anatta.
One will have a glimpse or understanding/experience of what Nibbana is when one follows 8 fold Path otherwise using any conventional ideas will only bring more corruption to Dhamma and wrong views especially by those people who did not even reach Sotapanna.
Too put it easier. Once one see Anicca nature of 5 kandhas they become “burning” once realize that one automatically discard any associate or craving in relation to those – like person who put hand into fireplace and his hand automatically draw back or as person who grabs coal in hand one drops it the moment one feel the burning but with hard shell of ignorance burning can not be felt or recognized so as you can see this got nothing to do with self or at least exclusively with self.
This got nothing to do with with the Path – constantly reminding yourself about how somebody is sick and dying etc. will actually take away energy for practice. Buddha said it’s good from “time to time” remind oneself about faults of ourselves and others but if you focus on this too much you will lose energy that you can use to advance on the Path. Sybe you need proper teacher and guidance to be less confused and someone who will straight you up as just going around circles will not make any use for you.
Buddha explained your behavior like this AN 7.71 so try to take it to the heart so you will not end up like this AN 8.10
