[Lal]

I am transferring the following two comments from Gad (and my answer to one of them) that were under an incorrect forum for this subject. 

• Before asking a question, please take the time to look at the various forum topics and select the most relevant forum for the question.

Gad: “I have a question about the sila of a sotapanna. A sotapanna remove the actions who lead to the apayas. Is that mean that a sotapanna cannot break any of the 5 preceptes ? His sila is perfect ?

My answer:

It is possible for a Sotapanna to break the five precepts. 

• See “Myths about the Sotāpanna Stage.”
• You may want to read the section “Sōtapanna Stage of Nibbāna” to learn more about the Sotapanna stage.

 

Gad’s follow-up question: 

I read it. If i understand clarly the Sotapanna can’t do a apayagami act like killing his parents hurt a Lord Buddha, divide the samgha and kill a arahant.

So sir what about cheating on his partner , kill someone, stealing, lying ?? Those actions don’t necesserily lead someone in the apayas. He can do that or it is impossible for him or her?

 

[Lal]

1. Kamma and their vipaka (consequences) is a complex subject. 

• The Buddha advised us not to try to analyze how they work. It is a subject fully comprehensible only to a Buddha.
• See “Acinteyya Sutta (AN 4.77).” There the Buddha lists four subjects that are not fully comprehensible by average humans. One of them is: “Kammavipāko, bhikkhave, acinteyyo, na cintetabbo;” OR “The results of kamma cannot be comprehended by average humans.”

2. However, the Buddha has given some general guidelines in several suttas. For example, see “Mahākammavibhaṅga Sutta (MN 136)” and “Cūḷakammavibhaṅga Sutta (MN 135)“

3. Regarding a Sotapanna: A Sotapanna is unlikely to engage in any akusala kamma unless it becomes unavoidable. 

• For example, it is highly unlikely that a Sotapanna will willingly steal, lie, or engage in immoral actions, let alone kill a human. But there are situations where an immoral action may be unavoidable. It is only an Arahant who will NEVER be able to engage in immoral actions.
• The six actions are those that a Sotapanna will NEVER be able to commit for any reason.

4. The following posts may be helpful:

“The Five Precepts – What the Buddha Meant by Them”
“How to Evaluate Weights of Different Kamma”
“What is Kamma? – Is Everything Determined by Kamma?”

“Kusala and Akusala Kamma, Punna and Pāpa Kamma”
“Ten Immoral Actions (Dasa Akusala)”
Punna Kamma – Dāna, Sīla, Bhāvanā

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