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samantha
ParticipantThank you for your response and clarification. I understand that avyakata does not mean “free of defilements” in every context, but in the specific case of vipaka-vinnana, it is ethically neutral. When the Buddha explains “sankhara-paccaya vinnanam” in dependent origination, the vinnana that arises due to past sankhara is a vipaka, the result of previous kamma. This type of consciousness is neutral and does not itself generate new kamma. It arises simply as the seeing, hearing, or knowing of an object. Since it is the fruition of past actions, it is not accompanied by raga (craving), dosa (hatred), or moha (delusion), which are the three unwholesome roots. Those defilements can arise only if, after the vipaka-vinnana, there is further reaction like attachment or aversion to the experience. Therefore, the consciousness at this stage is not defiled by the unwholesome roots. That is why the Buddha could describe it as avyakata and also include it in the dependent origination as conditioned by sankhara without implying that it is accompanied by greed, hatred, or delusion. I appreciate your pointing me to further readings and will study them carefully.
samantha
ParticipantThanks Lal you explained this wonderfully. This helped me to figure out where Yoniso Manasikaraya applies in this process . I will keep reading more and at the same time practice more.
samantha
ParticipantLal so I have basic understanding but lets take an example so I can understand better. I am trying to grasp this in a simple way so I have some basic knowledge of the mental body.
Before we go into deepest details lets start with the basic step. So, this would help me understand better. Thank you so much LAL for explaining everything.
Say X person got attached to a flower in the garden.
So the 1st process that happens is Chakkun patichcha rupecha. Uppajjathi chakku vinyanayam”
So basically vanna rupa is sent to the brain first and then those packet of data sent to hadaya vaththu?
Then once Hadaya Vaththu receives data where does Chakku Vinnana occur?In Hadaya Vattu or Cittaja Kaya?
If it’s not a huge trouble, can you explain to me with an example like this how everything falls together? I know it is not easy because there are so many things to consider. But I would get a basic understanding. -
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