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“Unfortunatly true. The most we can do is to help them see bit by bit” – this is bad mindset, as Buddha stated personal Nibbana is more important than trying to convince anyone to Dhamma. If one reach Anagami or Arahanat then may do “convincing” but at that stage I doubt anyone will see point of doing so
ChristianParticipantYou should look for meditation teacher, what you experience are actually signs of wrong meditation and practicing that way may cause permanent damage in the body/neurology
ChristianParticipantThe only bad thing about paying for sex is that you will become addicted to it and you will be reinforcing that pattern in your mind which at the end of the day will slow down progress (if Sotapanna or Sakadagami, there is sutta of Sakadagami having sex with his wife). Paying for sex gives a “thrill” but it’s no different than buying a bottle of alcohol. There are many layers to it, I would not say it’s wrong in terms of Dhamma itself but by understanding Dhamma you will know it will lead somewhere. Drinking here and there may not be bad or a “sin” but it’s a high chance to be a gateway for addiction, once addicted it will be very hard to give up. Most people do not know themselves or their gathi until it’s too late for them.
People who sell sex are often deranged one way or another, often connected criminally – if you have any residue of karma waiting to be ripe and end up with a bad result you increase the chances of getting hurt and suffering, etc. There are many layers to it.
Understanding bigger picture of Dhamma helps see things as they are in much bigger view and depth so it does not become gray area but clarity area I would say
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ChristianParticipantI really like taryal inquires, I think it is very important to have this quality in yourself to succeed in Dhamma. Keep this mindset the way it is but you need to understand a thing or two about Dhamma practitioners who reached a certain level when comes to Lal answers or in general you may feel we want you cut you off short or just hide from your inquireness to not “show” our misunderstanding that you think we can have but in reality Dhamma practitioners do not have spare time to play those “mental games” as life is passing quick and there is no time to spend on intellectual bantering at least to some extent or eventually when is needed.
Just added that input so you will not misunderstand the intent behind that interaction as it may not be as you think it is. Deep inquiry is really important but not all practitioners will be willing to do it. If you are the type of intellectual who enjoys digging you can join my discord (which is a hub for all pure Dhamma content) and we have a section for questions & answers where you can ask as much as you want https://discord.gg/3nMWMZv9yU
ChristianParticipantIt seem that you view on humanity is limited to earth, compared to cosmos Buddha is clearly right.
ChristianParticipantHere is another example of Aphantasia:
ChristianParticipantAudio is enough for recording
ChristianParticipantRather then using any third party apps you can just use my discord (with free unlimited options + free recording). I can setup event channel where everyone can talk and Lal can do simple moderation as main speaker (people who wants to speak will have “hand up” icon) and you can pull them up automatically to talk rather than pick and choose some random apps that you can use with limited manner, use platfrom that has already plenty of people with some basic understanding of Dhamma (and it’s easy to invite people who do not need even register with discord if they want to just go into event ie. temporary membership)
ChristianParticipantI will not be able to attend but I will post it on discord so other people may join:
Lal asked for discord so here is link – https://discord.gg/vh5EJsSTxD I’m in the process of rebuilding it so it will be step-by-step process right now most channales we had are archived. + research on supernatural phenomena for supporters
If anybody has screen recorder please record meeting anyway, you do not need to have paid plan, if you have any screen recorded or just built-in one if you have windows/nvidia graphic card.
ChristianParticipantIf possible sent me link Lal on email I will put that on our discord so more people will come
also we could record it for future as we will probably have lots of questions and insights
ChristianParticipantTibetan buddhism is not real Buddhism or Dhamma that leads to Nibbana. Tibetan buddhism books and practices (tantras) contain things like human flesh eating, sexually consuming body secretions, and “guru practices” which are directly or indirectly connected to hinduism (I’m talking as a general term, not specific tradition) shatras and tantras. Before learning Dhamma I was studying those various texts and if you are influenced by ignorance those things may be appealing to people. It was explained why that happens in a thread about music and notes (https://puredhamma.net/forums/topic/music-and-distorted-sanna/) – what is more “shocking'” that it uses the word “Buddha” explaining those practices. I sincerely hope people will reconsider practicing this type of “buddhisms”. Not only that, there are plenty of occultism and rituals, and when compared to suttas – suttas are against those practices, they are not leading to Nibbana but developing unwholesome states of mind. Buddha said clearly that Dhamma is good at the beginning, middle, and at the end. Tibetan quasi-buddhism is only sometimes good at the beginning but in reality, it’s just a sectarian attitude based on manipulation of people who are unable to think for themselves.
Many people would say “But its just meaning is different” or “meaning is secret teachings”, while the real Buddha said clearly in the suttas that there are no secret teachings.
“Thus spoke the Venerable Ananda, but the Blessed One answered him, saying: “What more does the community of bhikkhus expect from me, Ananda? I have set forth the Dhamma without making any distinction of esoteric and exoteric doctrine; there is nothing, Ananda, about the teachings that the Tathagata holds to the last with the closed fist of a teacher who keeps some things back. Whosoever may think that it is he who should lead the community of bhikkhus, or that the community depends upon him, is such a one that would have to give last instructions respecting them. But, Ananda, the Tathagata has no such idea as that it is he who should lead the community of bhikkhus, or that the community depends upon him. So what instructions should he have to give respecting the community of bhikkhus?”
With all due respect to tibetan culture, and way of life as people do not choose where they are born and I know we are all limited one way or another, but I would strongly advise not to calling “Tibetan Buddhism” “Buddhism” rather just Tibetan Tantra or Tibetan Hinduism as they worship hindu gods like shiva in many temples they build with specific goal go for rituals (in Nyingma Tibetan school).
Tibetan Hinduism (so-called “buddhism”) goes clearly against the Buddha Dhamma in many ways that it just can not be called or classified as Dhamma.
(I’m initiated into Shingon also in certain Tibetan teachings, I had “secret teachings” that were only available for people who were initiated – those are all in the bin of course, many of those texts were pretty extreme and pretty much line for line with hindu tantric texts while using “Buddhist” iconography to assert certain “authority” for person reading/studying)
I welcome everybody no matter what background they are from, I’m not talking in a judgemental way as I believe most people studying wrong things are most likely good people, trying to do good things and being not necessarily intentionally “hoaxed” but they are buying snake-oil. Many of those monks believe those teachings as many of them are part of yoga so obviously there may be some anariya jhanas or states/samadhis/powers but those do not lead to Nibbana.
ChristianParticipantThere is no way to actually do it faster than you are naturally conditioned to progress on the Path. Imagine bodybuilding, it depends on your genetic makeup how much/big and how fast you will grow, it’s the same with Dhamma – having living Buddha would be relative to having “steroids” as Buddha could progress the Path for you by explaining what you need to know and in what context so you can realize Nibbana faster.
Also Dhamma Path is not progressive as you would think of, it takes much more for person as you need to develop your own way of understanding Dhamma or should I say “in your own way” to understand it. Anapanasati etc. are good but it takes much more then that so if you “want” to progress faster do not look of way to do it “faster” as you will develop unwholesme mind, you need to look for right inputs for your mind that can give you insight – and asking, talking with Ariyas, listening to the discourses are one way to do it and developing meditation so mind can see more clearly is another
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ChristianParticipantI think you need to setup your link to public as it does not work properly (at least as the one I posted in the first post)
ChristianParticipantI will try make connect this to our puredhamma discord channel with maybe little more advanced model, we see but this tool make navigate site more easier now as you can navigate thru questions :)
ChristianParticipantI was researching this topic before finding puredhamma, this got nothing to do with original teachings, it’s syncretism with “buddhism”
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