What is nissando?

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    • #44152
      dosakkhayo
      Participant

      Pe 5

      Kathaṁ catubbidho hetu paccayo vipāko nissando ca? Avijjā ca taṇhāsaṅkhārā ca upādānaṁ ca—ayaṁ hetu. Viññāṇaṁ nāmarūpassa paccayo. Nāmarūpaṁ upapajjati, tathā upapannassa saḷāyatanaṁ phasso vedanā ca—ayaṁ paccayo. Yo bhavo ayaṁ vipāko. Yā jāti yā ca jarāmaraṇaṁ—ayaṁ nissando.

      I think these sentences are quite important in PS analysis. I guess if I could know its meaning, I can use this analysis at Compact Dhamma.

    • #44157
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Nissando means “outcome.”

      That verse is about separating the terms in Paticca Samuppada into four categories: 

      Hetu: Avijjā, taṇhā, saṅkhārā, upādāna

      Paccaya: Viññāṇa is paccaya for nāmarūpa, that nāmarūpa is paccaya for saḷāyatana, phass, vedanā

      Vipāka: Bhava

      Nissanda (Outcome): jāti,  jarāmaraṇa

    • #44159
      Lal
      Keymaster

      The next verse in the link Dosakkhayo provided is probably easier to understand:

      Kathaṁ duvidho paṭiccasamuppādo? Avijjā saṅkhārā taṇhā upādānaṁ—ayaṁ samudayo.56.4Viññāṇaṁ nāmarūpaṁ saḷāyatanaṁ phasso vedanā bhavo jāti maraṇañca—idaṁ dukkhaṁ. Yaṁ pana avijjānirodhā saṅkhāranirodho imāni tappaṭipakkhena dve saccāni. Tasmā paṭiccasamuppādo yena ākārena niddiṭṭho, tena tena niddisitabbo.”

      The above verse is about separating the terms in Paticca Samuppada into two categories: 

      Samudaya (giving rise, the same as hetu): Avijjā, taṇhā, saṅkhārā, upādāna

      Dukkha (suffering that can be stopped): Viññāṇa, nāmarūpa, saḷāyatana, phassa, vedanā, bhava, jāti,  jarāmaraṇa

       

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    • #44423
      dosakkhayo
      Participant

      sadhu! sadhu! sadhu!

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