Two kinds of samphassa?

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    • #41000

      Greetings everyone.

      Can someone explain meaning of this two phrases?

      #1 adhivacanasamphassa
      #2 paṭighasamphassa

      Found them in “Law of dependent arising – Secret of bondage and release” book written by bhikku Katukurunde Nanananda.

    • #41001

      1. Paṭighasamphassa is easier.
      – Paṭigha is a weaker form of dosa.
      – Thus. in samphassa-ja-vedana, paṭighasamphassa can be understood.

      2. Adhivacana means “another name” for something.
      – For example, danger, suffering, disease, etc, are “other names” for “kāma” or “sensual pleasures.”
      – See “Bhaya Sutta (AN 8.56)

      But I have not seen the term “adhivacanasamphassa” in the Tipitaka. Did he give a reference?

    • #41002

      He mentions reference to it in that book,
      this reference is in DN15: Maha Nidana Sutta.

      This is quotation from DN15:

      there were none of the features, attributes, signs, and details by which the categories of mental or physical phenomena are found. Would either linguistic contact or impingement contact still be found?”

      “Yehi, ānanda, ākārehi …pe… yehi uddesehi nāmakāyassa ca rūpakāyassa ca paññatti hoti, tesu ākāresu …pe… tesu uddesesu asati api nu kho adhivacanasamphasso vā paṭighasamphasso vā paññāyethā”ti?

    • #41004

      The word “adhivacanasamphasso” seems to be mentioned only once in a sutta (DN 15) and two other Tipitaka references:
      3 results for adhivacanasamphasso
      – When I first searched for “adhivacanasamphassa” nothing came up!

      This seems to be a deeper analysis of the “namarupa” formation in Paticca Samuppada.
      – I can take a look at it when I have time later.
      – Please feel free to comment if anyone has an explanation/suggestions.

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