Question about Dhaham Guna

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    • #44318
      namo0804
      Participant

      Teruwan Saranai.

      I have heard Waharaka Thero’s Tisarana Vandana chanting since last year.

      I have had a question while listening to it.

      It’s a Dhaham Guna part.

      I had a strong impression that Thero read certain verses in a set.

      Like this :

      (Svakkatho, Bhagavathā dhammo)

      (sanditthiko, akaliko)

      (ehipassiko, opanayiko)

      (paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhi ti)

      I heard that Thero had Patisambhidhā Ñāna. So I thought there must be a reason why Thero read this way.

      After much consideration, I guessed it would be related to anapanasati/satipattana bhavana’s process like below.

      I referred to Lal’s article (https://puredhamma.net/buddhist-chanting/supreme-qualities-of-buddha-dhamma-sangha/) for the meaning of the term.

      Set 1.

      Hetu – Svakkatho, Bhagavathā dhammo : leads to the removal of sansaric suffering via getting out of the 31 realms.

      Phala – paccattam vedittabbo vinnuhi : “paccayā” can be understood by looking at the origins (veda or vedic)

       

       

      Set 2.

      Hetu – sanditthiko : It allows one to comprehend “san” (“san” + “diṭṭhi“)

      Phala – akaliko : It’s Another meaning is that it leads to the removal of darkness.

       

      Set 3.

      Hetu – ehipassiko : defilements can be removed (“passika“) when each ärammana comes to the mind (“Ehi“).

      Phala – opanayiko : one can comprehend how each existence (bhava and jati) arises.

       

      In this way, phrases are connected to cause and effect

      I thought it explains the process of eliminating anapanasati/satipattana bhavana.

       

      Are these guesses valid?

       

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    • #44321
      Lal
      Keymaster

      It is good to contemplate things like this.

      However, these are all “characteristics” (or “qualities” or “guna“) of Buddha Dhamma, not hetu/phala.

      • Hetu and phala are described in Paticca Samuppada.
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    • #44322
      namo0804
      Participant
      • Hetu and phala are described in Paticca Samuppada.

      Thank you for reminding that Ven Lal 🙏.

    • #44331

      Good Buddhaparisada,

      it’s hard to find any teaching within the many, which does not ‘simply’ describe either lokuttara paṭiccasamuppādo or the common, Dukkha and the cessation of it.

      Only a view words, if proper attention, may lead to paths and fruits, so much mudita if a glimpse arose on ‘just that’, yet the try to nail it down, make something out- from- into it, might hinder suddenly.

      Dhamma requires not only to see ‘the’ Buddha, but also to reach the heirs domain.

      (Samana Johann)

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