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      Sakkāya Diṭṭhi and Pañcupādānakkhandhā

      In #7 you write that,

      sakkāya diṭṭhi is the view that pañcupādānakkhandhā lead to sukha.

      I would like to point out a subtlety for this statement. Your claim is not false, but I think there is better word instead of word “sukha”.

      Word “niccā” might be much more fitting than word “sukha” in above statement.

      Because ofcourse problem in not that PañcaUpādānaKhandha are not pleasurable, problem is that they are not completely niccā.

      Problem is that We are constantly distressed due to Aniccā nature of ALL sensory pleasure.

      If sensory pleasures had not even ounce of happiness, then ofcourse we would not desire them for even single cittā.

      So, PañcaUpādānaKhandha are not “not sukhā”, (they have some amisa sukha in them) but, they are definitely not niccā at all.

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      Many suttas describe “assada, adinava, nissrana” or “sensory gratification/perceived sukha of them”, the bad consequences of getting attached, and attaining Nibbana based on that detachment.

      See, for example, “Assāda Sutta (SN 22.26)

      All average humans have “assada.”
      – When they learn Buddha Dhamma (Noble Truths/PS/Tialkkhana) some will be able to see dangers of such attachments (adinava.)
      – When they follow the Noble Path they will end the suffering (nissarana).

      Of course, assada (or craving sukha) arises because of the nicca sanna.
      – So, one goes from nicca, sukha, atta to anicca dukkha, anatta understanding, upon learning the true Buddha Dhamma.

      Another way to say the same thing: Average humans perceive sensory pleasures as being good.
      – Only after learning Buddha Dhamma do they realize the “hidden dangers” of such attachments.

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