Tagged: Past lifes and futures lifes
September 18, 2023 at 9:25 am #46144GadParticipant
Hello everyone i found this on the site of my teacher. I already send this to sir Lal few months ago by email. I was not in the forum yet.
This is the past lifes of a forest bhikkhu name Isidore. Isidore is not his real name is a nickname to keeps his identity confidential. My teacher was friend with him many years ago in Burma. Bhikkhus Isidore developps the Jhanas and the capacity to see his past lifes and even his futures lifes. For the futures he said this lifes is not 100% sure. Many causes can changes them BUT they not the fruit of chance. It can be hard to changes his gati so somes lifes can’t be avoidable. For example when he do many akusala the rebirth in the apayas niraya, peta loka and animals become more evident. We can see he have the gati of a renouncer. He also made the wish to become a Lord Buddha.
The painting of Isidore’s lives
Without the commentaries on Isidore’s lives which follow it, the picture of his lives offers only limited interest and its data can easily be misinterpreted.
Example: “Such an animal wants to be human” does not mean that it thinks that it will be reborn after its death, nor that it is aware of what a human really is, but simply that it feels that Man has a condition superior to his own, that he is generally safer than him and therefore less tormented.
The “link of rebirth” is the moment of consciousness, accompanying or not an act and sometimes dating from a distant life, which causes the conditions for the following rebirth. Not to be confused with awareness of the moment of death, which instantly directs the mind towards the next life.
The past lives of the monk Isidore
No _ Plane of existence Species, sex, function, situation Link of Rebirth (L) / Note (R) is R because in french remarque is the words for note.
-38 Animal suede L: Desire for females of his species.
-37 Animal doe L: Sees a human and wishes to experience the same condition.
-36 Human ascetic A: Develops wrongs views.
-35 Human great fisherman L: Still wants to be human.
region administrator L: Still wants to be human.
-33 Human village chief R: Still wants to be human, but many akusala come to the surface.
-32 peta loka ogre L: Wants to be human.
-31 Human judge L: Still wants to be human.R: Engages in corruption.
-30 Human man L: Still wants to be human.R: Indulges in alcohol.
-29 Human gangster L: Still wants to be human.
-28 Human hunter R: Kill monkeys.
-27 Niraya hell male,endure many suffering.
-26 Animal monkey L: Desire for females of his species.
-25 Animal monkey
-24 Animal monkey
-23 Animal monkey
-22 Animal monkey
-21 Animal monkey L: Desire for males of his species.
-20 Animal monkey,leader of the horde L: Desire for females of his species.
-19 Animal monkey L: Desire for males of his species.
-18 Animal monkey
-17 Animal monkey L: Desire for females of his species.
-16 Animal monkey
-15 Animal monkey L: Sees a human and wants to be in this condition.
-14 Human poor woman L: Still wish to be a woman, give flowers to a zédi .
-13 Human rich woman L: Wish I to be a man.R: Develop kusala .
-12 Human man A: Offer flowers to a stupa.
-11 Human rich man L: Indulges in adultery.A: Offer flowers to a zédi wishing to be reborn as a man again.
-10 Human asexual L: Wants to be devī .R: Offer rice to the monks.
-9 Celestial devi L: Wishes to be reborn as a rich (human) woman continuing to develop kusala .R: Offering flowers to a stupa.
-8 Human princess L: Wishes (again) to be reborn as a rich (human) woman continuing to develop kusala .R: Rice offering to monks.
-7 Human rich woman L: Wish to be reborn as a man.R: Offer flowers to the Shwedagon zedi .
-6 Human single man L: Wish to be reborn as a man.R: Offer flowers to a stupa.
-5 Human pig killer L: The sign of the moment of death is a pig.R: Develops a lot of kusala at the same time .
-4 Animal pork L: Desire for sows.
-3 Animal sow L: Sees a monk and wishes he was human.
-2 Human peasant
flower seller L: Offer flowers to a zédi.
A: Nurtures the wish to be reborn on the human plane as a monk and to be able to teach the Dhamma.
-1 Human forest monk L: white kasina .R: Becomes a sāmaṇera at 10 years old. Wishes to be reborn into the life of a monk and expresses the wish to become a Lord Buddha. Develop all jhānas (based on white kasina ). Vipassanā practice . Dies at age 69.
The present life of the monk Isidore
0 Human forest monk L: Offer flowers to a Buddha statue (action already completed).R: Wishes to be reborn again into the life of a monk and reiterates the wish to become a Buddha (even before being able to verify that he had already made the same wish during his previous life). Will die at 105.
The future lives of the monk Isidore
1 Human forest monk L: Formulates the wish to be reborn on the tusitā plane of the deva
R: Pours water on a shoot from the Boddhi tree . Develops jhāna and vipassanā .
2 tusita deva L: Wishes to be reborn as a man (male human).
A: Indulges in pleasures. Offer flowers to a zédi.
3 Human rich man L: Wish to be reborn again as a man.R: Maybe meet the next Lord Buddha (or boddhisatta ).
4 Human king L: Attaches strongly to his possessions.
5 peta loka male L: Wants to be a man.
6 Human rich man L: Maintains a good sīla .R: Benefits mainly from the result of the kusala of the present life (0).
7 Celestial deva L: Observe the 5 precepts correctly.R: Maintains a good sīla .
8 Celestial deva L: Develop the 1st jhāna .
9 In the 1st jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma L: Develop the 3rd jhāna .
10 In the 3rd jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma L: Develop the 4th jhāna .
11 In the 4th jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma L: Jhanic absorption.
12 Human king L: Maintains good sīla R: Knows sāsana . Teach the 5 precepts.
13 tusita deva L: Maintains a good sīla R: Teaches the 5 precepts. Wish for the same rebirth.
14 tusita deva L: Wish to be reborn as a man.
15 Human rich man L: Wishes to be reborn as a deva R: Maintains a good sīla .
16 Celestial deva L: Let yourself go to pleasures.
17 Niraya hell endure horrible suffering.
18 Animal female dog R: Mainly commits akusala .
19 Animal sow R: Mainly commits akusala .
20 Niraya helle endures horrible suffering.
21 Human ascetic L: Expresses the wish to be reborn as a man. R: Has a good sīla . Develop all jhānas .
22 Human king A: Mainly commits akusala .
23 Niraya Hell endures horrible suffering
24 Animal pork L: Seeing an ascetic collecting food, he feels the wish to experience the same condition.
25 Human monk L: Wish to remain human.
A: Develop all jhānas .
26 Human rich man R: Commits adultery.
27 Human prostitute L: Wish to become a devī . R: Mainly commits akusala , but the benefits of offering flowers to zédis many lives earlier meet his wish.
28 Celestial devi R: Indulges in pleasures.
29 Niraya hell endures horrible sufferings.
30 Human prostitute
31 Niraya hell endures horribles sufferings
32 Human women
33 Celestial devi
34 In the 3rd jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma
35 In the 4th jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma
36 arūpa loka Brahma
37 arūpa loka Brahma
38 Human wife of king
39 Human ascetic R: Develop all jhānas .
40 Celestial deva
41 Human Brahman R: Teaches wrong beliefs.
42 Niraya hell endures horribles sufferings.
43 Human Beggar
44 Human poor
45 Human peasant
46 Human rich man
47 Human rich woman
48 Human queen
49 Human ascetic woman
50 Human ascetic woman
51 cātumahārājika devi
52 Human poor woman R: Maintains a good sīla
53 tusita devi R: Develop the 4th jhāna .
54 In the 1st jhāna of rūpa loka Brahma
55 Human princess
56 Human rich woman
57 Human rich man, then becoming ascetic R: Develop all jhanas
58 Human Brahman R: Teaches wrong beliefs.
59 In Niraya hell endures horribles sufferings.
60 Animal rooster
61 In Niraya hell endures horribles sufferings
62 Animal dog
63 Human poor
64 Human rich R: Has a good sīla
65 tāvatiṃsa devi
66 Human poor
67 Human poor
68 cātumahārājika devi
69 tāvatiṃsa devi
70 tāvatiṃsa devi
71 Human poor
1. A Bodhisattas is still a puthujunas even if his goal is pure. He can developp wrongs views fall in the apayas. A sotāpanna can’t fall in the apayas and he have a permanent security.
2. The gati of someone is hard to changes but not impossible. For example Bhikkhus Isidore fall in Niraya but after he try to Develops good habits.
3. That shows how the Samsara is horrific. Even if we obtain the best rebirth like a brahma 2 lifes after it is possible to be in the niraya. The cycle of birth and rebirth is a terrific places we are not safes nowhere. Is a eternal up and down. If we attain the sotāpanna stage we can only go up and eventually after 7 bhava be free forever from this sinister place call Samsarā. There is good fears and bad fears. Bad fears is when we are afraid to lose our wealth and loved ones. This fear are based in the ignorance of the nature annica, dukkha and anatta. It is impossible to conserves our wealth and loved ones forever is incontrolable. For example in the lifes of Bhikkhus Isidore he was a rich man or woman many times. During this lifes he had loved ones and wealth. He probably feel dukkha when he knew he will die and let them. He exeperienced the fear of lost. The good fear is when we don’t want to stay anymore in this cycle. When we see the nature annica dukkha and anatta this fear naturally comes. We do our best to be free forever.
Here is the link. The site is in french. I even change somes words in english belows because some words didn’t match the main idea. Please use a traductor. https://www.dhammadana.org/dhamma/kamma/voir-ses-vies.htm
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