Does soul exist, if not who attains enlightenment?

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    • #16081
      Anonymous

      Hi
      Please explain if soul exists as per Buddha dharma?
      And if not who attains enlightenment , is it gandhaba who attains enlightenment? Gandhaba ramains same till one reaches enlightenment?
      Please guide.

      Thanks.
      Ashish

    • #16105
      Embodied
      Spectator

      @Ashish…

      There is no soul as such, meaning soul as a specific/permanent-self-with-a-beginning in Buddha Dhamma. What exists is a mental body (gandhaba as you mentioned) resulting from endless rebirths… unless nibanna.
      Another interesting definition that is given here to the whole formed by the gandhabba + body of flesh (as for human bhavas…) is “lifestream”, but one that goes on changing as per one’s intentions, thoughts, speech and actions.
      This lifestream will go on endlessly unless it comes across a Buddha.

      I’ve no interest in to consider myself a teacher here, so don’t consider this a teaching, it’s but my view on your subject – as allowed by the forum rules.

      :-) !!

    • #16109
      Embodied
      Spectator

      Correction:

      “This lifestream will go on endlessly unless it comes across a Buddha… or an Arahant as a teacher“.

    • #16113
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Welcome to the discussion forum, ashish.gohel!

      It will take some effort to get an answer to your question. The Buddha said that both views that “there is a self” and “there is no-self” are wrong.

      You may want to read in the following order:
      What Reincarnates? – Concept of a Lifestream

      “Self” and “no-self”: A Simple Analysis – Do We Always Act with Avijja?

      Anatta and Dukkha – True Meanings

      A “lifestream” per first post above can be thought of the following way too. One has a set of gati (soemtimes spelled as gathi). These are character qualities/habits that change from life-to-life and even during a given life. One attains Nibbana when one gets rid of all gati. You can learn about gati by starting with the following post: “The Law of Attraction, Habits, Character (Gathi), and Cravings (Asavas)

      Then you can use the “Search” box at top right to find more posts on gati. Please feel free to ask questions (and refer to the posts in question) as you proceed.

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