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January 23, 2025 at 11:54 pm #53300pathfinderParticipant
In Mahātaṇhāsaṅkhayasutta, the Buddha admonishes Sāti’s wrong view of viññana, as Sāti said that viññana is “It is that which, venerable sir, speaks and feels and experiences here and there the result of good and bad actions.”
The Buddha then explains (7.7) “Anekapariyāyena hi vo, bhikkhave, paṭiccasamuppannaṁ viññāṇaṁ vuttaṁ mayā, aññatra paccayā natthi viññāṇassa sambhavo”ti.
“For in many ways I have told you that viññana is dependently originated, since without a cause, viññana does not come to be.”
The Buddha further elaborates: “Consciousness is reckoned according to the very same condition dependent upon which it arises, Consciousness that arises dependent on the eye and sights is reckoned as eye consciousness.”
Does it mean that when I see a flower, then the cakkhu viññana is born, and when I close my eyes, the cakkhu viññana ceases? In the same way, do the other aggregates arise and cease in this manner? Therefore when there is no input, no sights, smells, sounds, taste, touch, ideas temporarily (eg in sleeping), there is no 5 aggregates arising at that moment?
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January 24, 2025 at 6:31 am #53302LalKeymaster
“Does it mean that when I see a flower, then the cakkhu viññana is born, and when I close my eyes, the cakkhu viññana ceases?”
- Yes. You no longer see with your eyes closed.
- However, it is impossible to “close the mind” while you are conscious. So, you may be thinking about what you saw.
“In the same way, do the other aggregates arise and cease in this manner? Therefore when there is no input, no sights, smells, sounds, taste, touch, ideas temporarily (eg, in sleeping), there is no 5 aggregates arising at that moment?”
- Yes. We have five “doors” (eyes, ears, nose, tongue, and the body) that bring external sensations (sights, sounds, smells, tastes, and body touches.)
- Four of those may be blocked by going into a dark, sound-proof room, but you will still feel your feet touching the floor. Again, it is impossible to “close the mind” while you are conscious.
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