Calculation: Approximated time for becoming Buddha;

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    • #44901
      LayDhammaFollower
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      These are all just approximations; that’s the best we can do;

      There have been only 7 Buddhas in the past 91 great eons (1 great eon = 1 maha kappa).

      91/7 = one Buddha appears roughly every 13 eons.

      1 great eon = roughly 40 billion years

      10B years creation of the solar system,

      10B years solar system inhabited by various beings,

      10B years solar system getting destroyed,

      10B years solar system remains in a destroyed state

      Bodhisattva who was to become Gautama Buddha passed through around 512, 027 supremely enlightened Buddha!

      = 13 Great Eons roughly for each Buddha * 512, 027 total Buddha * 40 billion years in each great eon

      = 2.66254040 * 10¹⁷

      = 266,25,40,40,00,00,00,000 Years

      That is roughly 266 THOUSAND TRILLION YEARS!

      This number could be a bit low in reality because sometimes there are multiple Buddhas in one great eon. Such as the current great eon. But, that is the most rare event in the universe.

      There are three types of Bodhisattva. They all achieve the same level of Buddha hood but within a different timeframe due to differences in their starting point.

      The above number is for wisdom-dominant Bodhisattva! Who is able to become Buddha in the fastest way.

      You will have to double and quadruple that number for faith-dominant and energy-dominant Bodhisattva respectively!!

      The mind is the fastest entity in the world. It is not easy to tame a mind. It takes an extremely long time to completely tame it without the support of Buddha.

      Buddha can see a citta which arises once every billionth of a second. He can see multiple cetasika and 16 processes within even that single cittā, that’s the power of Buddha mind.

      He can predict events that are going to happen after trillions of years with 100% certainty and accuracy.

      We know about this because Bodhisattva who was to become Gautama Buddha received a certain prediction about his eminent Buddhahood roughly trillion years ago by another supreme Buddha.

      === == ===

      Source for number “512,027”:

      [1.] Source 1.

      [2] Source 2.

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    • #44903
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Thanks, LDF. Yes. Those estimates seem to be good.

      • The link for reference 1 did not open for me. Can you check?
      • #45293
        LayDhammaFollower
        Participant

        Update: 14th June, 2023.

        @Lal , This reference #1 is live now. You can visit that website for source of number “512,027”.

    • #44906
      LayDhammaFollower
      Participant

      Yes, Source 1 is down right now for everyone.

      I checked it yesterday, it was working. Lookslike that site is down for everyone today.

      Source 1 basically contained a link to P.hD thesis about topic of Bodhisattva.

      I will post here, when that link is live.

    • #44907
      LayDhammaFollower
      Participant

      There is one more assumption that should be discussed here.

      Which is that the number “512,027” must be since the first time “Bodhisattva” decided to become supremely awakened fully enlightened omniscient Buddha.

      Source does not deliberately say that, but that must be true.

      Because in beginning less saṅsarā, all Lifestream have practically encountered infinite Buddha. That infinity (times when Buddha was encountered) is ofcourse subset of much much larger infinite set (of times when Buddha was not encountered).

      (There are different types of infinity.)

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    • #44908
      Jorg
      Participant

      The other day, I was on the subway and this exact thought came to mind. Then, at some point, I got lost in the math and let it be. 
      Thanks LDF!

    • #44909
      Lal
      Keymaster

      LDF wrote: “..supremely awakened fully enlightened omniscient Buddha.”

      I just wanted to point out that the word “omniscient” MAY give the wrong impression of “being aware of everything at all times, i.e., at each moment.” 

      • Of course, a Buddha has a total understanding of how the world functions. In that sense, he can be said to be omniscient. So, it depends on the definition of omniscient.
      • However, even a Buddha is not aware of everything happening everywhere at a given time. When he is in “Arahant-phala or nirodha samapatti,” he is not aware of anything in the world.
      • He can turn his attention to anything and be fully aware of everything about it. 

      Even a Buddha’s sensory faculties are constrained by “one arammana at a given time.”

      P.S. Understanding that helps get rid of the view of a “soul/atman.” Our lives are a series of causes and effects described by Paticca Samuppada. We have control over our actions because of the “delay” involved during the “processing time” associated with the brain.

    • #44914
      LayDhammaFollower
      Participant

      Yes, Lal.

      MN90 also has some content on the topic of “Omniscience”. Which gives a similar description.

      Link to SuttaCentral: MN90: Kaṇṇakatthala Sutta (English-Pali side by side version).

    • #45296
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Thank you, LDF.

      • I have fixed your link, and it works now.
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