Reply To: Arupavacara Brahama and defiled sanna

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Lal
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Yes. In some early posts, I may have written “defiled saññā” instead of “distorted saññā.” It should ALWAYS be “distorted saññā.”

  • It is a bit tricky to translate “saññā vipallāsa.” Furthermore, in most cases, just saññā is used without explicitly referring to the fact that it is a “distorted saññāthat arises in anyone (The only exceptions are when an Arahant is in Arahant-phala samapatti or nirodha samapatti. ) When engaging in day-to-day activities, even an Arahant generates a “distorted saññābecause it is built into our bodies. For example, an Arahant will taste honey to be sweet because it is a “distorted saññā.However, Arahant’s mind will not be attached to that taste, i.e., they don’t generate raga, dosa, moha because of the“distorted saññā.
  • I have revised that post (including the title): “Sotapanna Stage and Distorted Saññā.”

You wrote: “The last sentence says that arupavacara Brahamas have ‘defiled saññā’.”

  • I revised it to: “they also have a “distorted saññā” about ākāsa and viññāṇa.”
  • They also attach to that “distorted saññā” since they had cultivated anariya arupavacara samapatti.

You wrote: “i) When living being generates ‘defiled saññā’, it automatically creates abhisankhara and kamma vinnana.”

  • It should be “i) When living being generates ‘distorted saññā’, it automatically creates abhisankhara and kamma vinnana.”
  • That is correct, as long as the corresponding samyojana are not broken. Arahants do not generate abhisankhara and kamma vinnana via ‘distorted saññā.’

You wrote: “ii) But arupavacara Brahmas don’t generates kamma.”

  • They do generate kamma via attaching to the ‘distorted saññā’ because they have not removed arupa raga samyojana.
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