Reply To: A Consciousness That Does Not Establish


There are vipāka viññāna and kamma viññāna.

Vipāka viññāna are six types: They arise via our six senses: eyes, ears, nose, tongue, body, and the mind, called cakkhu, sōta, ghāna,jivhā, kāya, and manō viññāna.
– The viññāna is discussed in the sutta is NOT those. Those six types of viññāna remained for even the Buddha. He could see, hear, etc.

What is discontinued at the Arahanthood is the kamma viññāna that arises via “sankhāra paccaya viññāna.“ Those are manō viññāna generated in a PS cycle starting with “avijjā paccayā sankhāra.”

This is why it DOES NOT MAKE ANY SENSE to translate different types of viññāna as just “consciousness.” It is very important to understand this point.

See, “Viññāna – What It Really Means.”

This was also pointed out in the post recent post, “Tanhā Paccayā Upādāna – Critical Step in Paticca Samuppāda,” even though I may not have emphasized it.