SN 12.11 Āhārasutta

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      dosakkhayo
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      SN 12.11 Āhārasutta

      Kabaḷīkāro āhāro oḷārikosukhumo vā, phasso dutiyo, manosañcetanā tatiyā, viññāṇaṁ catutthaṁ.

      I think I read somewhere that Kabaḷīkāro āhāra is mental. Could it also mean both actual food like pizza and mental food?

      Thank you.

    • #50884
      Lal
      Keymaster

      The English translation of “Āhāra Sutta (SN 12.11)” incorrectly says that “kabaḷīkāro āhāra” is “solid feed.

      • However, all four types of “āhāra” are “food for the mental body.”
      • That is just like “rupa” in most cases refers to the “mind-made rupa,” and “vedana” means “mind-made vedana.”
      • All of those can be “stopped from arising” (nirodha.) 
      • For example, “Upādānaparipavatta Sutta (SN 22.56)” states “āhāranirodhā rūpanirodho.” That means “all “mind-made rupa” can be stopped from arising by “stopping all types of “food for the mental body.” An Arahant can see external rupa and does eat solid food!

      1. All four types of “food” (āhāra) are “food for the mind to be engaged in the rebirth process. An Arahant does not take in any of the four types. An Anagami does not “consume kabalinkā āhāra” even though they (and Arahants) eat food.

      2. Kabalinkāhāra (kabalinkā āhāra) is not physical food. It is the CRAVING for tastes, smells, and body touches in general. As we know, those three senses are available only in kama loka (the lower 11 realms, including the human realm and six Deva realms.)

      • When craving for the three types of “close contact sensual pleasures” is stopped, kabalinkā āhāra ceases (nirodha).
      • At that point, one is freed of rebirths in kama loka (the lower 11 realms, including the human realm and six Deva realms.)
      • The other three types of “āhāra intake” by the mind stop at the Arahant stage.

      3. “Phassa” in “phassa āhāra” refers to “samphassa.”  That is not merely contact but “contact with san” or “san phassa,” which rhymes with “samphassa.”

      4. See “Āhāra (Food) in Udayavaya Ñāna” This is an old post and may need to be revised. I see that I have mainly discussed kabalinkā āhāra.

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    • #50888
      dosakkhayo
      Participant

      Sadhu! Sadhu! Sadhu!

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