Pathfinder wrote:
“There is also another meaning of Jāti in that post:
8. When one gets deeper into Buddha Dhamma, one can see that everything in this world is “born” due to causes and effects, i.e., Paṭicca Samuppāda. For example, a tree is born out of a seed. A car is “born” in a factory. Paṭicca Samuppāda can describe all those.
Do you think the jāti, jāra, maranaṃ of things outside of us is applicable in the Noble Truths as well?”
- Yes. Everything in the world arises via the mind. That is pointed out in the “Aggañña Sutta (DN 27)” See “Buddhism and Evolution – Aggañña Sutta (DN 27).” This is why the Buddha stated that “mind is the precursor to everything in this world”: “Manōpubbangamā dhammā..”
- “jāti dhamma” (those that arise via Paticca Samuppada) include “Partners and children, male and female bondservants, goats and sheep, chickens and pigs, elephants and cattle, and gold and money are all jāti dhamma.” See “Pāsarāsi Sutta (MN 26).”
- Note that the English translation in the above link is misleading/wrong: “Partners and children, male and female bondservants, goats and sheep, chickens and pigs, elephants and cattle, and gold and money are liable to be reborn.”
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Taryal wrote: “Each birth ends in death with future uncertain.”
- Yes. Even a Deva or Brahma would not know where their next birth is!
- All of us were born Deva and Brahma (and in the apayas) countless times in this rebirth process.
