Reply To: Pāyāsi Sutta

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Lal
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1. I recommend reading the “Pāyāsi Sutta (DN 23)” from @marker 5.1.

  • As explained there, Pāyāsi did not believe in the rebirth process, kamma vipaka, opapatika (instantaneous) births, etc.
  • Venerable Kassapa provided many analogies to explain to Pāyāsi why those were wrong views.

2. It is informative to read the whole sutta and think about those explanations. 

  • I could not figure out some of the analogies, and the one pointed out by Pathfinder is one of them.
  • It is possible that the cultural background at that time may have played a role in that particular analogy. However, I cannot figure out the logic!

3. Ironically, Pathfinder asked this question the same day Taryal posted his comment, “Building Confidence in Dhamma.”

  • At least for our time, I think Taryal’s comment provides an easier-to-understand way.
  • Furthermore, as I noted below Taryal’s  comments, Buddha’s teachings cannot be understood with “normal human logic.” It cannot be accepted or rejected based on “normal human logic” used by all puthujjana, including scientists. Only a Noble Person (Ariya) at or above the Sotapanna stage can comprehend that the root cause of all suffering is “distorted/false sanna.”
  • I have discussed many suttas providing evidence, starting with the post “Uncovering the Suffering-Free (Pabhassara) Mind ” on 8/5/23.  I pointed out two critical posts in that comment. Another is “Mūlapariyāya Sutta – The Root of All Things.”
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