Reply To: Old age in Idappaccayatā Paṭicca Samuppāda

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I see. So Idappaccayā can be manifested in two ways.

  1. In real time like the example given in Idappaccayātā Paṭicca Samuppāda, of the drunk teenager. The (san)phassa paccayā vedanā refers to the good feelings of the teenager at that time.
  2. The (san)phassa based on conditions at that time, or Idappaccayā (san)phassa can also lead to vedanā at the cuti-patisandhi moment. That is how Idappaccayā upadana can lead to future jati, future old age, and future death.

You said: Suppose a human bhava ends, and that lifestream grasps an animal existence (animal bhava.); let us say it is a deer. That will also take place with an Idappaccayatā Paṭicca Samuppāda process taking place at that time. 

Is this not the uppatti Paṭicca samuppāda cycle at the cuti-patisandhi moment?