Reply To: Post on “Icchā (Cravings) Lead to Upādāna and to Eventual Suffering”

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dosakkhayo
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I wrote to organize what I understand.

The strength of a sotapanna‘s Upadana cannot be the level of apayagami. (O)

Because moha cetasika reduced avijja level.

The strength of a sotapanna‘s Tanha cannot be the level of apayagami. (O)

Because apayagami gati has removed.

So, in the “arammanavipaka vinnanagati to attach – samphassasamphassa ja vedanatanha” process, “apayagami gati to attach” step can not happen. Therefore, apayagami level tanha can not happen too.

It means that unconscious(automatic) responses(mano sankara, tanha) can change with steady conscious effort(controlling kaya/vaci sankara and upadana step).