Reply To: What if Nibbana Is not the Final Achievement?

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Differentiation between two state of object is manifested due to causality.

Difference are experienced due to having senses in first place. Senses comes due to tanha. Experiencing objects with anicca nature is always suffering, hence, why objects with Aniccā nature are not worth attaching to.

How can there be two different elements in absence of causality?

Nibbanā is not subject to casuality.

Nibbanā is ONLY unconditional element. It is accessed through removal of root causes. Root causes are six. They are responsible for arising of suffering.

Alara kalama and other person had ignorance regarding causality.

They thought that existence there doesn’t end. But, it does.

Buddha even before he started his quest to enlightenment in his last life, said that he will find DEATHLESS element.

A *PERMANENT* escape from suffering. Not temporary fix. That is why he was not satisfied with jhana.

Last argument is that let’s assume hypothetically there is some element other than nibbanā which is higher than nibbanā.

Someone who is Arhant or buddha, might not know this higher element.

But, what they know for sure is that six senses causes nothing but suffering to everyone. there is nothing worth experiencing through six senses at all. There is no purpose or meaning of senses at all. All sorts of inputs arises and passes away based on kamma vipakā. Yet, nothing stable, nothing enduring, satisfying.

There is Nothing that can give any being any true permanent security in desert of saṁsāra against all sorts of dangers that prevail here.

Other than dhamma there is no refuge.

So, In summary,

If you find out your house is burning with unstoppable fire, would you try to escape from it or no?
Even if you don’t know what is outside your house, does it matter? Because, there might be some danger outside your house or maybe not. But, would you want to escape from danger that is already present or no?
(Problem in nutshell is arising of senses, solution is eradicating those six root causes responsible for formation of senses.)