Reply To: Taking Back my old claim based on newfound awareness May 14, 2022 at 6:34 am #37484 ChristianParticipant I’m not saying that jhanas are needed for Sotapanna but needed to progress from Sotapanna higher, even to grasp Sotapanna stage you need to have pure mind at that moment by either “grace” of Ariya or be near first jhana to calm your mind