Reply To: Post on Paṭicca Samuppāda – A “Self” Exists Due to Avijjā


The following post is by firewns:


You wrote in #4: ‘In the uppati PS, namarupa is the merging of the gandhabba with the zygote to create the “seed” for the new human with a physical body’ and ‘Hadaya vatthu is created at the “bhava paccaya jati” step in the uppatti PS’.

However, hadaya vatthu would have to be formed when the gandhabba is formed, as it is part of the mental body. Furthermore, if the bhava stage precedes the jati stage, then before the being is born, it should exist as a gandhaba in the paraloka waiting for a suitable womb to merge with a suitable zygote.

1) Thus would it not follow that the hadaya vatthu would have been created before the jati step?

2) In your post on ‘Avyākata Paṭicca Samuppāda for Vipāka Viññāṇa’, what is ‘chaṭṭhāyatanaṃ’ which you mentioned in #8 related to ‘nama paccaya chaṭṭhāyatanaṃ’?

Thank you very much in advance for your reply.