Reply To: Post on "Sakkāya Ditthi in Terms of Attā or “Self” or “Ātma”

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My comments on the latest post:

Sub title: A New Paticca Samuppāda Process Starts Only if One Starts Acting with Avijjā

– Comment: All have avijja, including Sotapannas, Sakadagamis and Anagamis to less and less a degree. Only Arahants have removed avijja. The other three still have desire for kamaloka and rupaloka

10. “One would pursue that ārammana (the sight, sound, etc.) ONLY IF one perceives that it is worthwhile or beneficial to him or her. Unless one has not REMOVED sakkāya ditthi, one is under the wrong view that those sensory experiences are one’s own”

– Comment: A Sotapanna, a Sakadagami and an Anagami alike would pursue, and at the cuti-patisandhi moment, GRASP an arammana that ‘fits with’ their Stage of attainment. But all three had removed sakkayaditthi at the Sotapanna Stage.

“One would pursue that ārammana (the sight, sound, etc.) ONLY IF one perceives that it is worthwhile or beneficial to him or her” :

– Comment: A Sotapanna, a Sakadagani and an Anagami would ‘pursue’ an arammana as long as it does not pertain to the apayas, the human realm and below, and the kama loka respectively. All three see future existences in line with their attainment as ‘worthwhile and beneficial’ (at their respective Stages of Nibbana), aware, nevertheless, that those existences too will come to an end. They DO SEE, in fact, that they are NOT one’s own BECAUSE Sakkayaditthi had been removed (at the Sotapanna Stage).

The distinction to be seen is between ‘that it is worthwhile or beneficial to him or her’ and ‘sakkaya ditthi- being under the wrong view that those sensory experiences are one’s own’.