Reply To: Four Conditions for Attaining Sōtapanna Magga/Phala

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“…one of the stages of Nibbana was attained without listening to a desana by an Ariya. …But they were for the higher stages of Nibbana after the Sotapanna stage(Sakadagami, Anagami, Arahant).”

This would be the case for jati Sotapannas, I figure out. (Those who are at least Sotapannas, or higher, and do not know it). That IS a question.