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ParticipantDear Lal,
Thank you very much for your detailed explanation. I will go through all the provided links carefully, get a better understanding, and will comment later.
Theruwan Saranayi. š
August 31, 2025 at 10:52 pm in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54953AniccaSeeker
ParticipantThe means to get the Dhamma really understood, get craving, suffering, defilements, understood, see the first Noble truth rightly, is to steady associate with Dhamma, eg. dukkha. If not building up a firm border, fence, at first place, so that one does not steady “escape” wrongly from dukkha, there is no change to get it seen rightly. This face for purificasion is Sila, virtue, right conduct.
As long as building fake fences out of merely philosophical ideas, there is no way to come and stay in proper association, no way to develop Saddha and by it the path.
Venerable Bhante,
I fully understand your point, based on sÄ«la ā samÄdhi ā paƱƱÄ. I would like to share from my own experience.
From childhood, I was encouraged to keep sÄ«la. I tried my best to protect the paƱca-sÄ«la, even keeping a journal to track myself. But without knowing the true Dhamma, it was very difficult ā often it felt like just forcing myself.
Now, as I gradually realise the nature of anicca, dukkha, anatta, I find that sÄ«la and samÄdhi arise naturally. I no longer have to force them. For example, I cannot imagine killing, stealing, or lying ā not because I am holding external rules, but because before I even act, my citta itself shows me the ÄdÄ«nava. With wise attention I stop. If I slip due to assÄda, guilt immediately arises, which again reminds me of the truth.
So I feel: when true understanding is present, one does not need to cling to sÄ«la and samÄdhi by force ā they happen on their own.
As you beautifully said: āAt first, beginners protect sÄ«la with effort (fence). But when one sees anicca clearly, greed, hatred, and delusion weaken ā and sÄ«la begins to hold on its own.ā
This is what I am beginning to see in my own life.
With gratitude for your guidance.
Theruwan Saranayi. š
August 24, 2025 at 9:57 am in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54887AniccaSeeker
ParticipantDear Lal,
Bohoma pin for your kind words of encouragement. I also want to express my deepest gratitude for the tremendous effort you put into building the Pure Dhamma website and distributing the true Dhamma so freely.
I have already received so much help from your writings, and I know I will continue to gain more guidance in the future.
May you always have the strength and blessings to continue this noble work šĀ
Theruwan Saranai šš
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August 23, 2025 at 10:42 pm in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54882AniccaSeeker
ParticipantDear Lal,
Bohoma pin for your explanation. I took the time to read your articles, and this is the way I now understand it:
- The world indeed arises out of past avijjÄ and taį¹hÄ. Why? Because everything is built from suddhÄį¹į¹haka ā four elements (pathavi, Äpo, tejo, vÄyo) formed by avijjÄ, and the other four (vaį¹į¹a, gandha, rasa, ojÄ) made meaningful through taį¹hÄ.
- I now see more clearly what distorted saĆ±Ć±Ä means. We confuse our vipÄka vedanÄ with permanent reality.
- Example: cake tastes sweet. That āsweetnessā is distorted saƱƱÄ, not a fixed truth. In fact, itās only my vipÄka sukha vedanÄ manifesting.
- Without knowing this, I build taį¹hÄ over that saĆ±Ć±Ä ā I think the taste is āmine,ā controllable, available on demand.
- This is how avijjÄ and taį¹hÄ keep extending saį¹sÄra, leading to repeated dukkha.
- I also came to see the difference between anicca and anitya more clearly:
- Anitya (impermanence) is just one small part, like the tail of the elephant ā it points to the fact that things arise and pass away.
- Anicca is the whole elephant ā because these things arise and pass away beyond our control, they cannot be held according to desire. Thatās why clinging to them inevitably leads to dukkha, and shows anatta.
š Bohoma pin again for guiding me to see this connection between vipÄka vedanÄ, distorted saƱƱÄ, taį¹hÄ, and anicca.
If I am misunderstanding any part of this, please kindly correct me.
August 20, 2025 at 4:38 am in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54852AniccaSeeker
ParticipantTheruwan Saranai,
Iāve been reflecting on paį¹icca-samuppÄda and Waharaka Theroās explanations.
He often says: if things were nicca, we could arrange them as we wish. But since they donāt work that way, they are anicca. Everything we experience is saį¹ katha ā already conditioned, running on causes and effects.
This makes me wonder:
- The world (nÄma-rÅ«pa, saįø·Äyatana, phassa, vedanÄ) comes out of past avijjÄ and taį¹hÄ.
- It feels like a process that keeps running on its own, like a wheel thatās already spinning.
- We only add āfuelā when new avijjÄ and taį¹hÄ arise.
So my question is: Is this unstoppable, conditioned continuation itself the anicca nature?
Because we canāt hold it, stop it, or bend it to our will ā it leads to dukkha ā and shows thereās no self (anatta).
Would love to hear othersā thoughts. š
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ParticipantThank you all for guiding me on the right path. Iāll give it another try, and if I have any questions, Iāll ask here. Bohoma pin š
July 29, 2025 at 1:16 am in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54689AniccaSeeker
ParticipantDear Christian,
Thank you very much for your response and for pointing me back to the deeper essence of Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta.
I truly agree that the focus shouldnāt be on the object itself ā like hair ā but on the nature of how all conditioned things behave. My intention wasnāt to analyse external things for their own sake, but to use a simple, personal example to reflect on how expectation, attachment, and identity lead to dukkha.
As Waharaka Thero often explains,
āYamak saį¹ khatai, paį¹icca samuppannaiā ā
All things that arise are conditioned by causes and are therefore unstable and impermanent.So even something as ordinary as hair, a thought, a feeling, or a dream ā all are saį¹ khata dhamma, and thus anicca, dukkha, and anatta. If I can see that nature clearly in one, it helps reveal the same in everything. That was the approach I was experimenting with ā not to over-analyse, but to reflect with yoniso manasikÄra.
Your reminder not to get caught up going item by item is valuable ā I will take care to stay focused on the underlying nature, not the surface detail.
Thank you again for helping me reflect more clearly.
Teruwan Saranai šJune 11, 2025 at 7:33 pm in reply to: Seeking clarification on how I understand Anicca, Dukkha, and Anatta #54409AniccaSeeker
ParticipantDear Lal,
Thank you so much for your kind reply. I truly appreciate how you extended the ice cream example to show the deeper implications of anicca, especially how something that feels āniccaā in the short term can lead to suffering in the long run. That really clarified a lot for me.
Thank you again for creating such a helpful space for Dhamma discussion.
Theruwan Saranai š
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