Possible impact of a massive group metta bhavana & group pattidana?

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    • #19671
      upekkha100
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      Here is a short 4 minute video presentation of quantum physicist John Hagelin talking about the research study done in the 1980s on the impact a group meditation had on other people during a war.

      Quotes from the above video:
      -“A thousand people could influence the behavior of a million”
      -“Group meditation prevented war”
      -“a marked reduction in violence and war”
      -“80% drop in war deaths and war related injuries”
      -“There is far more evidence that group meditation can turn off war like a light switch than there is evidence that aspirin reduces headache pain for example, it is a scientific fact.”

      The kind of meditation that was mentioned was transcendent meditation. Now I don’t know how transcendent meditation works or what the object of meditation is, but this shows that even this type of meditation seemingly had great impact on other people(about 1000 on a million). If this type of meditation could have such great results, what are the possibilities of a group metta bhavana, where the focus is peace/safety/well-being of all sentient beings. Not only a group metta bhavana but after the metta bhavana, a group pattidana(transferring of merits) takes place as well. I feel like the group metta bhavana itself will be more powerful than those done in the 1980s, and if combined with doing group pattidana, this combination would have an even far greater impact than the group metta bhavana alone.

      It would be an interesting experiment to see a large group of people who do genuine metta bhavana simultaneously(same time no matter where they are) and then subsequently do group pattidana, everyday for a month.

    • #19733
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Thank you for posting this video. I had not seen it.

      Yes. The power of the mind has been hidden all these years.

      Scientists are reluctant to believe these effects because they cannot truly “reproduce” the results. They want to see exactly the same results when an experiment is repeated.
      – One person’s mind is not the same as the mind of another. Javana power created in a mind depends on how pure it is. Javana power of an Arahant or someone with magga phala will be much higher. Of course we cannot assign numbers, and that is a problem for scientists who tend to “assign a number” to each parameter.
      – As you had mentioned in another post, you have experienced the difference between just saying a verse (without any effect) and reciting it with understanding (by “putting you r mind really in to it”).

      Still, it is at a point now that they cannot refute the qualitative results. As the above video says, no one can dispute that there is an observable effect.

      Another example is the following video posted by Eric:
      The Rice Experiment (Video)
      – If someone is curious, this experiment can be done at home. Please let us know if anyone does the experiment.
      – There are probably videos online where the experiment did not “work”, i.e., they could not see any difference between the two cases. That is because they were just saying the words without the “mind power” behind it (without true comprehension).

      The key point is that javana power of a citta can be enhanced even by doing mundane metta bhavana as in the above video. If a large group of Ariyas repeat this experiment, one could get astounding results.

      Anyway, we really don’t need to do experiments. We all can do our part each day. Furthermore, that power will keep increasing as we all purify our minds more.

      Here is a relevant post: “Javana of a Citta – The Root of Mental Power“.

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