December 11, 2024 at 7:52 am
#52854
Keymaster
1. Pathfinder wrote: “From this, I wanted to ask if Jati in the first noble truth refers to all 3 kinds of Jati described in Jāti – Different Types of Births ..”
- Yes. The following is at the beginning of that post:
Three Main Meanings of Jāti
The commonly-used meaning of jāti is “birth,” as in the birth of a human body. We celebrate “birthdays” based on the day someone was born in this life. As we see below, Buddha Dhamma has two other (different) meanings depending on the context.
- In the Uppatti Paṭicca Samuppāda, jāti means the birth in a new realm among the 31 realms. For example, a living being can be born as a human, animal, Deva, Brahma, etc.; that is a birth in that existence. See, “Akusala-Mūla Uppatti Paṭicca Samuppāda.”
- On the other hand, in Idappaccayātā Paṭicca Samuppāda, one can be “born” in countless “states” during a given lifetime. See #3 below.
- The above TWO are the main meanings of “jāti” in Buddha Dhamma. After understanding the concepts, one could use the same term appropriate for a given situation.
- Note that jāti is pronounced “jāthi” with “th” sound as in “three.” See “Tipiṭaka English” Convention Adopted by Early European Scholars – Part 1.”
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2. Pathfinder wrote: “Jati itself is not suffering, but our attachment to it causes suffering.”
- That is not correct. Any and all types of jati embed suffering.
- All suffering stops only when the causes and conditions for any jati in the rebirth process or during a lifetime (as in Idappaccayātā Paṭicca Samuppāda) stop.