Reply To: Questions on Posts in the "Origin of Life" Subsection

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Lal
Keymaster

OK, taryal. I understand that you are among most scientists who believe “science is never wrong.” But if you get deeper into Buddha Dhamma someday, you will see that Buddha Dhamma is the “ultimate science,” and modern science can not even come close.

  • That is why you stated again, “When someone is manipulative enough to claim that “Nothing has happened in Origin of Life research since Miller – Urey experiment”, they have lost all credibility from the scientists that study this stuff.”
  • I agree with the view that “Nothing significant has happened in Origin of Life research since the Miller–Urey experiment.”
  • Making a bunch of organic molecules in an electric discharge is nothing compared to making a DNA strand. That is nothing compared to making a “living cell.” That is nothing compared to “creating a conscious life.”
  • Scientists are nowhere close to any of those.

This discussion will not be useful because Modern science and Buddha Dhamma are built on two different foundations/axioms.

  • Modern science believes the Earth started as a lifeless planet with conditions unsuitable for even primitive life. Furthermore, they believe life evolved gradually, and humans “evolved” only within the past few hundred thousand years.
  • The Buddha stated that in the early stages, the Earth was very different in a radically different way. It had no trees or animals, but it was suitable for humans with “Brahma-like subtle/fine bodies.” 

So, it is like arguing an issue starting with very different axioms. We can debate for years and years without agreeing.

  • I suggest reading the following post, which lays out the basic ideas of Buddha’s worldview. I am not asking you to agree with it. But at least you will be able to see what I am trying to say: “Buddhism and Evolution – Aggañña Sutta (DN 27).”

Another related point is that modern science has evolved over the past few hundred years by developing theories along the way. Scientists discarded theories that did not work and developed new or revised theories.

  • In contrast, the Buddha’s worldview, laid out in the above post, has not changed. It is in the Tipitaka. Even though scientists have not yet accepted those fundamental axioms, they have accepted many other aspects over time.
  • See, for example, “Dhamma and Science – Introduction.” 

P.S. I noted the following sentence at the end of your comment: “Just when you are done with the issue of materialism, you will encounter the issue of creationism. What a messed up world this is, lmao.”

  • Buddha’s worldview does not belong to materialism or creationism.
  • It is based on Paticca Samuppada: Things (and living beings) come into existence based on “root causes and prevailing conditions.”
  • The “Origin of Life” section is an introduction to that subject. If you look at the list of posts in that section, the last post is on  Paticca Samuppada.