Enlightenment factors only for Sotapannas?

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    • #54772
      SaLa
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      Hello! Can a putujana also go into the enlightenment factors at will, or can one do this only when one has the first stage of enlightenment or higher? Thank you 🙏 

    • #54773
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Welcome to the forum!

      1. It is a lengthy process to be able to cultivate the Enlightenment factors. One must understand the futility of the “sensory pleasures” to understand the value of cultivating the Enlightenment factors. I will summarize the steps briefly below.

      2. Once the fundamentals are understood, only then can one start understanding the deeper concepts.

      3. Please feel free to ask questions as you go through the suggested posts. It may seem overwhelming first, but it is better to take the time and grasp the fundamentals.

    • #54907

      Hello! Can a putujana also go into the enlightenment factors at will, or can one do this only when one has the first stage of enlightenment or higher? Thank you 🙏 

      Good householder,

      the factors of awakening, if one has not gained right view, are of course out of reach for one.

      It’s possible to cultivate “fake” factors, leading to wrong liberation.

      It’s importand that it’s all about right or wrong, and objectification of it’s use.

      Without completing the basic developments, not having so then completed Satipatthana (or call it Saddha, or Sila), what ever factors further gained are for a wrong.

      (Samana Johann)

    • #54908

      My person would go even so far, that developing the factors of awakening “by will” is in the sphere of non-returner-path to some degree upwardly.

      Developing Satipatthana complete is the base of the Bojjhaṅgās.

      “At any time by will” certain in the sphere of Arahant.

      Anyway surely out of frame if a common person tries such.

      (Samana Johann)

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