Dhammāyatana

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    • #47281
      dosakkhayo
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      Vb2 Āyatanavibhaṅga 28.1

      Tattha katamaṁ dhammāyatanaṁ? Vedanākkhandho, saññākkhandho, saṅkhārakkhandho, yañca rūpaṁ anidassanaappaṭighaṁ dhammāyatanapariyāpannaṁ, asaṅkhatā ca dhātu.

      Is Nibbana(asankhata) included in dhammāyatana because the permanent elimination of the contamination is experienced by the mind?

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    • #47286
      Lal
      Keymaster

      Āyatana” can mean different things depending on the context. 

      • The six “indriya” (cakkhu, sota, ghana, jivha, kaya, mano) become “āyatana” in a defiled mind. That is one context.
      • But “āyatana” could be used in the context of “a place” too. That is the context in the verse you quoted.

      I discussed that in the post “Nibbāna “Exists”, but Not in This World.” The following is from that post:

       The “Paṭha­ma ­Nib­bā­na­ Paṭi­saṃ­yutta ­Sutta (Ud 8.1)It says, “Atthi, bhikkhave, tadāyatanaṃyattha neva pathavī, na āpo, na tejo, na vāyo, na ākāsānañ­cāyata­naṃ, na viñ­ñā­ṇañ­cāyata­naṃ, na ākiñ­cañ­ñā­yatanaṃ, na neva­saññā­nā­sañ­ñāyata­naṃ, nāyaṃ loko, na paraloko, na ubho candimasūriyā. Tatrāpāhaṃ, bhikkhave, neva āgatiṃ vadāmi, na gatiṃ, na ṭhitiṃ, na cutiṃ, na upapattiṃ; appatiṭṭhaṃ, appavattaṃ, anārammaṇamevetaṃ. Esevanto dukkhassā”ti.”.

      • The first part is atthi, bhikkhave, tadāyatanaṃ.” Here “atthi” means “exists,” and “tadāyatana” is another word for Nibbānatadāyatana comes from “tath” + “āyatana,” where “tath” (pronounced “thath”) means “perfect.” Since Nibbāna is something that we cannot define in terms of words, the closest English word for “āyatana” is something like “dimension” or “sphere.” This “āyatana” is not to be confused with the six āyatana referring to the six sensory faculties in “Nāmarūpa Paccayā Salāyatana.”
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    • #47292
      dosakkhayo
      Participant

      Thank you. It is helpful to me.

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