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Hello Everyone,

I received these from a friend of mine. I just want to know you whether they are talking about the same. If not, what is the difference.

I know in these videos, they try to use words to describe an experience. Words can be different to say the same thing. I am not worry about that, but I just want to know these experiences  are same or not if not what is the difference.

 I posted this to another forum but not sure whether they even went through  it before commenting. I know these are different religions. But  that doesn’t concern me.

I am only curious about these experiences.

Thanks,

These are the two videos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB2FU1ElwLc

Two types of ‘Death of the Mind’

https://youtu.be/XMRh_p_iKmY

Finally came face to face Buddha

 

[taryal]

Not an expert but those videos seem to be discussing arupa samapatti states.

Arupa loka is the world of immaterial beings composed only of citta and cetasika (mental factors), without rupa (material form). There are five Arupa Loka corresponding to the five Arupa Jhanas.

• In the following 2 realms only Nama exists without Rupa.
  1. Akasanancayatana: the world of infinite space perception
  2. Vinnanancayatana: the world of infinite consciousness perception
• In the last 3 realms there is neither Nama nor Rupa but the mind is only present. Because there is still residual kamma in the form of Bhavatanha.
  3. Akincannayatana: the world of nothingness perception
  4. N’evanasannanasannayatana: the world of neither perception nor non-perception
  5. Asannasatta: the world of unconscious beings
• So one can see that even in the last 3 realms Arahanthood is not attained. Otherwise Namarupa would not be present, it is only suppressed.

Nibbana entails detachment from all 31 realms including the above 5 loka. This underscores the importance of pondering anicca.

• This reply was modified 3 weeks ago by taryal.

[Lal]

I took a quick look at the videos.

• It seems the first video is on Vedic teachings. That is not Buddha’s teachings.
• I did not watch enough of the second video to determine whether it contained helpful information. It seems that the bhikkhu described his own meditative experience. 

[SengKiat]

There are only four Arūpa Loka corresponding to the four Arūpa Samāpatti.
1. Akasanancayatana: the world of infinite space.
2. Vinnanancayatana: the world of infinite consciousness.
3. Akincannayatana: the world of nothingness.
4. N’evanasannanasannayatana: the world of neither perception nor non-perception.

Asannasatta: the world of unconscious beings belongs to 22nd realm of the fine material realm (Rūpa loka).

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taryal

[taryal]

My bad, I quoted it from another thread.

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