Reply To: Is Nibbana Icca, Sukha, Atta?

#53690
Lal
Keymaster

1. First, it is a good idea to link a sutta in the following format, where each verse is allocated a marker: “Anupada Sutta (MN 111).” 

  • If a Sutta Central sutta does not show the markers, type #1.1 at the end of the URL, and the sutta will be reloaded with the markers. For example, the URL in the link you gave has “script =latin” at the end. Just add “#1.1” to it to become “script =latin#1.1”
  • Also see the URL in my link above to get the idea.
  • Once you get that format, click on any specific marker number, and the URL will indicate that marker. (You can also manually change the marker number in the URL.)
  • It will be helpful for EVERYONE to use this format, so we can refer to marker numbers to point out specific verses.

2. I set the link to highlight the start of your quote in your comment above (“For a fortnight he practiced discernment of phenomena one by one.”)

  • @marker 3.1 it says he attained the first jhana (referred to as “first absorption” in the translation) “..paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.”
  • @marker 5.1: He attained the second jhana and so on until @marker 19.1 it says Ven. Sariputta attained saññāvedayitanirodha: “..saññāvedayitanirodhaṁ upasampajja viharati.”
  • That is when he became an ubhatovimutta Arahant!
  • That sequence of events (where he went through all the jhanas and samapattis to get to nirodaha samapatti at the Arahanthood) happened two weeks (a fortnight) after he attained the Sotapanna stage. 

3. So, I  think you are confused in some way. 

  • If I missed anything, please refer to the relevant verse numbers/markers when explaining.