Reply To: Discussion on “Cultivating Jhāna and Magga Phala – What Is the Difference?”

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Lal
Keymaster

1. “Nirodha samapatti” is not possible for all who has cultivated the 4 jhānas and the 4 arupavacara samapatti. Just because one has cultivated the 4 jhānas and the 4 arupavacara samapatti that does not mean they can get into “nirodha samapatti.

  • Nirodha samapatti” means to experience the “full Nibbana” (for up to seven days) before the death of the physical body.
  • That is the main point.

2. Anariya yogis can cultivate the 4 jhānas and the 4 arupavacara samapatti. But they cannot get to “nirodha samapatti.

3. “Nirodha samapatti” is possible only for “cetovimutti Arahants.

  •  A “cetovimutti Arahant” is an Arahant who has cultivated the 4 jhānas and the 4 arupavacara samapatti.

5. A “pannavimutti Arahant” is an Arahant who has NOT cultivated ALL of the 4 jhānas and the 4 arupavacara samapatti. They may not have cultivated even a single jhana.

  • They also cannot get to “nirodha samapatti.

Please read the post “Samādhi, Jhāna, and Sammā Samādhi” (especially #10) carefully to understand the above.

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