Reply To: Four Conditions for Attaining Sōtapanna Magga/Phala November 21, 2018 at 11:01 am #20079 LalKeymaster Magga phala citta (attaining the Sotapanna stage) happens DURING listening to a desana. However, one may not realize it until even a few weeks later, when one starts realizing that some of one’s gathi have changed.