January 14, 2026 at 9:16 am
#56213
Keymaster
Saurabh@2110 wrote: “I also think jhanas are necessary till some time only just as sir lal said that one should not forcefully try to avoid sensual pleasures which might even lead to depression! I think same goes for jhanas as well but this maybe applies to anariya jhanas only and not to ariya jhanas which are the domain of anagamis/arahat I think.”
- Attaining an anariya jhana will not guarantee attaining a magga phala.
- One must either attain an Ariya jhana or enter the Satipaṭṭhāna Bhūmi to attain a magga phala. Both require comprehension of the Noble Truths, Paṭicca Samuppāda, and Tilakkhana (all are equivalent).
- Most people attain magga phala without going through Ariya jhana by entering the Satipaṭṭhāna Bhūmi.
- Of course, one with the ability to get into anariya jhana can attain magga phala by comprehending the Noble Truths.
- This is discussed in “Overcoming Kāma Saññā – Satipaṭṭhāna Bhumi or Jhāna.”