Reply To: Why Would Devas Come Down To The Human Realm To Listen To Desanas? July 10, 2018 at 9:40 am #16795 LalKeymaster y not asked: “How is it that they can attain a deva realm (through magga phala) lower than that of a Sakadagami?” This needs a bit of contemplation. Becoming free of the apayas is forever. We all have been born in the deva/brahma realms.