Thanks Johnny_Lim. Based upon what Akvan says and you too, i tend to forget what Nagasena says.
The general question is still: could bodily pain due to other causes than kamma vipaka.
Based upon the sutta’s i still tend to a “Yes”.
Anyone who runs a marathon to collect money for cancer treatment will feel heavy pains. In spite of what Lal says, knowing one will cause pain and still deciding to do action, does not mean that decision is immoral. At least i do not call that immoral.
It is a moral decision to run this marathon and collect money despite the pain that will arise. Is the pain some repayment of a bad deed? Who can tell?
Life comes with pain, discomfort, and choosing for comfort, that is mostly immoral, egoistic. The Buddha did not choose for comfort! He did abandon comfort.
If i decide to stop breathing, like the Buddha, i also will feel pains, but do i repay any kammic debt? Ach…
siebe